FF, how to get them after refusing at first?

[Shurdus]

Sorry if this has been asked before but I can't seem to find anything with this boards' search function.

Anyway, after refusing a FF at first, it turns out that the Spanish took Peter Minuit one turn before I could. Now I want to get another FF that I refused at firsy while racing for Minuit. Wherever I click, the FF now does not want to join any more. No other faction has him yet, so that is not it. I simply do not know where to click.

 

[Refar]

There is nothing to click.
Once refused you will be not offeren th FF again and can not get him.
I think its by design.

 

[Knaken]

Yep. If in one specific turn, you get enough bells to choose between 2 or more different founding fathers and you want the FF that is prompted last, you have to click the first ones away and you can never choose them again...

FAIL!

 

[Shurdus]

Ah ok, I thought you could get them later on anyway. thnx for the quick replies!

 

[spur390]

The civilopedia states that the founding fathers page is where you can have them join you even after you refuse them the first time. I call bug/sloppiness.

 

[Cutlass]

If you refuse a FF, does that mean you always get a chance at the next available one you are eligible for?

 

[Öjevind Lång]

If you refuse a FF, does that mean you always get a chance at the next available one you are eligible for?

Not if another civ snaps it up first.

 

[dalgo]

However refusing a FF kind of leaves a 'road block' behind you. ie the next civ to get that many points will take it and deplete his points so he is back to square one. I don't think they ever turn them down?

 

[Öjevind Lång]

However refusing a FF kind of leaves a 'road block' behind you. ie the next civ to get that many points will take it and deplete his points so he is back to square one. I don't think they ever turn them down?

Furthermore, the game information says that if you turn down a FF, it will never be offered to you again. In that particular game, of course.

 

[Lord Shadow]

So who's right about this?

The civilopedia states that the founding fathers page is where you can have them join you even after you refuse them the first time. I call bug/sloppiness.

Furthermore, the game information says that if you turn down a FF, it will never be offered to you again. In that particular game, of course.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

So who's right about this?

This is a direct quotation from page 53 of the manual: "You can refuse a Founding Father if you would like to pursue a later one, leaving your points intact. If you do so, that Father will never offer to join you again." Not that that is necessarily true; lots of the information in the manual and the Civilipoedia is confused or simply bad.

 

[Polobo]

Given the lack of ability to actually select a bypassed FF I would say the manual is correct. I am not sure the exact wording of the 'pedia is that Spur is referring to so I cannot speak to that.

 

[Cutlass]

what i meant was, do you get offered a different FF instead?

 

[Öjevind Lång]

what i meant was, do you get offered a different FF instead?

The points that would have been used up acquiring that FF are saved, which means that you can use them to buy a more powerful FF a bit later.

 

[Polobo]

what i meant was, do you get offered a different FF instead?

Of Course; you do understand how to read the FF screen and how the points accumulate and are spent, right?