Germany Quick Question
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Wessel V1
Emperor
It's obvious that things like these get solved if you download the latest version. 3.19 Can be attained from this website, and 1.187 is the latest version of RFC. This 'bug' was solved in RFC 1.182. Germany typically didn't survive for long so an independent Germany was very common. This is now resolved and Germany becomes much stronger in later eras.
If you don't want or can't update, you can always change your early moves. Berlin is a bad capital. Danzig (1NE) is much better, but Frankfurt as a capital is the best option you have. Just wait until it flips and build other cities after that. Budapest and Kiev (others prefer a Baltic city, I don't) are other cities that are vital. With these you can get a very strong economy that should survive past 1500AD, and from there on it becomes straightforward.
If you don't want or can't update, you can always change your early moves. Berlin is a bad capital. Danzig (1NE) is much better, but Frankfurt as a capital is the best option you have. Just wait until it flips and build other cities after that. Budapest and Kiev (others prefer a Baltic city, I don't) are other cities that are vital. With these you can get a very strong economy that should survive past 1500AD, and from there on it becomes straightforward.
where is kiev? I agree - but faustindauf seems like the natural spot with reval. Just make sure you wait one turn to settle reval so russia doesnt take it from you.
once you take France, Athens, England, or Russia you will get bad -expansions (they are all red on the expansion maps). Keep your early expanding to Constantinople, Rome, or possibly scandanavia (avoid norway altogethor, its red and anyway not as good bases there). Athens is ok, but you'll want to wait until Crossairs to move into France - your economy will be much better.
In the modern era you're gonna get negatives for cities, civics, and big negatives for expansion. you overcome this with a strong economy - danzing, reval, and faustindorf should be cottage farms. Budapest, Frankfurt, and constantinople should have cottages where there are no resources or hills.
Also, switch to nationhood and occupation asap when you get nationalism. Switch to fascism when you have it, before you go to war.
You really shouldnt have any trouble with stability until you attack Russia - then it becomes difficult.
tips: raze paris, bordeux, brest and build essen (or if you must, keep paris, but raze bordeux and brest - they are crap anyway). Keep Marseille as well.
raze 2 cities of your choice in England. I like to keep London and Inviernes. If you are really struggling with stability you can just keep London, just make sure you raze the rest. If you have nationhood and occupation you actually get a small positive bump to stability for razing cities. DO NOT settle Ireland, raze them or leave them neutral after england collapses. UK is a big hit to stability, settling Ireland will kill you - and you will not be able to give those bases away to anyone when you get desperate.
If you are not going for UHV, prob best not to invade Russia. If you are, wait until about 1915 - with 2 stacks of 10-12 tanks you should be past the mountains in 7-8 turns anyway, you don't need a lot of time. Just keep moscow and 1-2 other bases, raze the rest and push until Russia collapses.
in my emperor game currently (I'm about to finally win it, woohoo) I have a +91 economy, NOT in a golden age. That is a big help to stability. Also means I satisfy VC 2 and 3 pretty close to the same time - sometimes hit 3 before 1940.
Oh, Kiev is the same city as Faustindorf. I always rename it Kiev in my games because I don't like a small village's name for my most productive city
Wessel V1
Emperor
Anielowka is Kiev too AFAIK, I prefer that spot. Again, matter of taste.
Yeah, you don't waste one cow with that. But I prefer being on a river for more production later.
The Strategy discussion thread would be the best place I guess.
Akbarthegreat
Angel of Junil
Agree with Loreth, you can build Anielowka, it will be great city (by number of people), but if it won't be on river it will sucks in production, and can be hardly compared with any good production city. Which is Faustindorf.
Here is some optimized city layout for germany with minimal number of cities:
Here is some optimized city layout for germany with minimal number of cities:
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Wessel V1
Emperor
I'm fairly certain that Anielowka is on a river, I always avoid cities that are not on a river. For example, Wilna seems decent but it sucks in reality.
Anilowka can be on at least two tiles, so one on river, one on deer. Yes you are right, i'm always trying place city on river to get some decend production bonus. Coast + river + some hills or mines is even better, however i can't name very much cities like this 
Anyway i would more likely help the original author of this post somehow, but he is not very communicative fellow
Anyway i would more likely help the original author of this post somehow, but he is not very communicative fellow
By settling Anielowka, you change Uranium, Horses, Iron and Pigs for Wheat and Cows. I don't see any reason to do so.
Anielowka has three locations, of which two are on a river.
Wessel V1
Emperor
I may have to review it, it has been a long time since I last played Germany (or Russia).
Yeah well it depends on priorities, if you want have only super cities you have to unfortunately avoid some good cities... as Germany you can have pretty much everything you want best cities in europe / america (if you want), including all wonders, but it's pretty hard play perfect game with Germany on emperor, it's very easy play wrong few turns and you are done
Anyway you are right, i'm just trying new approaches. But Cities like Reval vs Schlusselberg driving me nuts - you can have Reval on river, or Schlusselberg (Novgorod) not on river but with more resources (and forrests?) / people without production; i never can decide which one is better
(but because i have to prefer production, it's usually Reval)
Akbarthegreat
Angel of Junil
Anyway you are right, i'm just trying new approaches. But Cities like Reval vs Schlusselberg driving me nuts - you can have Reval on river, or Schlusselberg (Novgorod) not on river but with more resources (and forrests?) / people without production; i never can decide which one is better
I'm also eternally stuck between Memel and Riga.
If it was only once city it would be great, but there is more location like that, that's the reason i wrote the city atlas, however it doesn't help too much
corovanrobber
King
Fun fact: Anielowka (Angelovka) is a rural village with a population of 590. So much for being better than Kiev in RFC. Faustindorf (also Faustinovka) is a small village too, nowadays known as Mezhirechka.
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