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A lot of civs are missing from civ but there is one civilization that really deserves to be included and I would argue should even be a mainstay alongside the Greeks, Chinese, Americans, Indians, etc.
Who are they? Majapahit. But the game could call it "Indonesia" if it needs to be more accessible. (There is also Srivijaya, an equally impressive empire, and fast forward to modern times and you have Sukarno, the George Washington(ish...) of Indonesia and so on, so there are plenty of options but Majapahit is my favorite.)
First some modern background: Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim-majority nation and democracy and largest unified archipelago in the world and the fourth most populous nation on Earth. They represent an entire chunk of the planet that has been without representation in the civ games. They are a melting pot of cultures from around the world but they also have very unique cultures of their own. With so many islands, it's difficult to pinpoint any stereotypes as they are truly diverse. Their civ phrase (you know "Barbary Corsairs, Manifest Destiny") would be "Unity in Diversity". Their Unique components could literally be anything. From rich agriculture to entertainment to seafaring warriors and so on and so on.
Just how influential were the Majapahit? Just read wikipedia: "Majapahit was an empire of 98 tributaries, stretching from Sumatra to New Guinea; consisting of present day Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor." Even crazier, some historians argue their influence could be beyond that.
Simply put, they were one of the greatest, most powerful empires in world history.
Not enough for you? Here is just one story, among the many thousands, that represents their might militarily (I chose a war story over a culturally influential story just because Civ5 seems to revolve a lot around Unique Units and warfare). This is for the Singhasari empire, not the Majapahit but yet another impressive empire (there are so many...):
"In 1293, Kublai Khan, the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire and the founder of the Yuan Dynasty, sent a large invasion fleet to Java with 20,000 to 30,000 soldiers. This was a punitive expedition against King Kertanegara of Singhasari, who had refused to pay tribute to the Yuan and maimed one of its ministers........
[Fast forward to aftermath]
"......The three generals, demoralized by the considerable loss of their elite soldiers due to the ambush, went back to their empire with the surviving soldiers. Upon their arrival, Shi-bi was condemned to receive 70 lashes and have a third of his property confiscated for allowing the catastrophe. Ike Mese also was reprimanded and a third of his property taken away. But Gaoxing was awarded 50 taels of gold for protecting the soldiers from a total disaster. Later, Shi-bi and Ike Mese were shown mercy, and the emperor restored their reputation and property.
This failure was the last expedition in Kublai Khan's reign. Majapahit, in contrast, became the most powerful state of its era in the region which is now Indonesia."
Thoughts, guys? And not just from history lovers, but also casual gamers who just enjoy Civ5 as a game. What do you think of including a Civ like Indonesia? I feel like there are so many overlapping European nations. Ideally, I would want overlapping civs from Indonesia but I know that won't happen so I think they need just one at the very least, to do Southeast Asia justice.
Edit: Boldfaced some key words to make it easier to read for those who prefer to skim through.
Who are they? Majapahit. But the game could call it "Indonesia" if it needs to be more accessible. (There is also Srivijaya, an equally impressive empire, and fast forward to modern times and you have Sukarno, the George Washington(ish...) of Indonesia and so on, so there are plenty of options but Majapahit is my favorite.)
First some modern background: Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim-majority nation and democracy and largest unified archipelago in the world and the fourth most populous nation on Earth. They represent an entire chunk of the planet that has been without representation in the civ games. They are a melting pot of cultures from around the world but they also have very unique cultures of their own. With so many islands, it's difficult to pinpoint any stereotypes as they are truly diverse. Their civ phrase (you know "Barbary Corsairs, Manifest Destiny") would be "Unity in Diversity". Their Unique components could literally be anything. From rich agriculture to entertainment to seafaring warriors and so on and so on.
Just how influential were the Majapahit? Just read wikipedia: "Majapahit was an empire of 98 tributaries, stretching from Sumatra to New Guinea; consisting of present day Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor." Even crazier, some historians argue their influence could be beyond that.
Simply put, they were one of the greatest, most powerful empires in world history.
Not enough for you? Here is just one story, among the many thousands, that represents their might militarily (I chose a war story over a culturally influential story just because Civ5 seems to revolve a lot around Unique Units and warfare). This is for the Singhasari empire, not the Majapahit but yet another impressive empire (there are so many...):
"In 1293, Kublai Khan, the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire and the founder of the Yuan Dynasty, sent a large invasion fleet to Java with 20,000 to 30,000 soldiers. This was a punitive expedition against King Kertanegara of Singhasari, who had refused to pay tribute to the Yuan and maimed one of its ministers........
[Fast forward to aftermath]
"......The three generals, demoralized by the considerable loss of their elite soldiers due to the ambush, went back to their empire with the surviving soldiers. Upon their arrival, Shi-bi was condemned to receive 70 lashes and have a third of his property confiscated for allowing the catastrophe. Ike Mese also was reprimanded and a third of his property taken away. But Gaoxing was awarded 50 taels of gold for protecting the soldiers from a total disaster. Later, Shi-bi and Ike Mese were shown mercy, and the emperor restored their reputation and property.
This failure was the last expedition in Kublai Khan's reign. Majapahit, in contrast, became the most powerful state of its era in the region which is now Indonesia."
Thoughts, guys? And not just from history lovers, but also casual gamers who just enjoy Civ5 as a game. What do you think of including a Civ like Indonesia? I feel like there are so many overlapping European nations. Ideally, I would want overlapping civs from Indonesia but I know that won't happen so I think they need just one at the very least, to do Southeast Asia justice.
Edit: Boldfaced some key words to make it easier to read for those who prefer to skim through.