SilencerNate
Chieftain
- Joined
- May 12, 2010
- Messages
- 9
I've been playing FFH now for a few weeks, and love the mod. However, even with a decent gaming rig, on huge maps with 20+ AIs, the thousands of units nearly bring me to a halt, and I'm not even going to comment on multiplayer out of syncs.
I'm beginning to believe the problem lies in a combination of two elements.
1) The AI moves together
2) The AI builds zergs
If you play vanilla civ, then FFH, one thing I noticed was that the AI worked as a human player might. In effect, after the beginning of a new turn, within a few seconds, it would move its units, and operate normally. In FFH, I noticed that instead, the game will freeze momentarily while all AIs move as a single force, after which the human(s) may move.
If these changes were intentional, I'm curious why they were changed. Otherwise, it would be great to have them reverted to vanilla.
Secondly, we've all seen the massive stacks of doom on defense. I understand the creators wanted to prevent player-side SoDs, but I ran into an AI city awhile back with 177 units defending. 77 units I feel would be borderline too much, but 177 is just impossible to imagine. Worse yet, they make cities nigh impossible to conquer.
I assume that short of modifying the AI behavior a lot, which could be a lot of work, there's no simple fix for curing the AI creating hundreds of units. However, a search did turn up a possible solution so that might curb the problem.
JUnitSpace
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276637
In a nutshell, it limits the amount of units on a tile at any given time. Higher limits can be set for certain conditions, such as tile has a city. So defense of cities could be set higher, as they should be for example.
I would think that stacks of 10 could be a cap, and 20 maximum for cities. Note that the mod does not affect AI behavior at all, so the zerg army would still be present, but instead of being in a city fortified, the AI would be forced to move it elsewhere. I assume it would either roam defend its borders, or it would act more aggressively, and use the excess units to attack.
Either way, it would lower the overall amount of units moving each turn, and would encourage smaller, higher promoted strike forces rather than hundreds of units clogging bandwidth.
I'd love if someone could incorporate some of these changes into FFH. If the creators wanted to go a different path, this could be a great modmod. At the very least, although I have 0 experience doing any mod work myself, if someone could point me into the direction how I could make these changes myself, I would do the legwork myself.
I'm beginning to believe the problem lies in a combination of two elements.
1) The AI moves together
2) The AI builds zergs
If you play vanilla civ, then FFH, one thing I noticed was that the AI worked as a human player might. In effect, after the beginning of a new turn, within a few seconds, it would move its units, and operate normally. In FFH, I noticed that instead, the game will freeze momentarily while all AIs move as a single force, after which the human(s) may move.
If these changes were intentional, I'm curious why they were changed. Otherwise, it would be great to have them reverted to vanilla.
Secondly, we've all seen the massive stacks of doom on defense. I understand the creators wanted to prevent player-side SoDs, but I ran into an AI city awhile back with 177 units defending. 77 units I feel would be borderline too much, but 177 is just impossible to imagine. Worse yet, they make cities nigh impossible to conquer.
I assume that short of modifying the AI behavior a lot, which could be a lot of work, there's no simple fix for curing the AI creating hundreds of units. However, a search did turn up a possible solution so that might curb the problem.
JUnitSpace
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=276637
In a nutshell, it limits the amount of units on a tile at any given time. Higher limits can be set for certain conditions, such as tile has a city. So defense of cities could be set higher, as they should be for example.
I would think that stacks of 10 could be a cap, and 20 maximum for cities. Note that the mod does not affect AI behavior at all, so the zerg army would still be present, but instead of being in a city fortified, the AI would be forced to move it elsewhere. I assume it would either roam defend its borders, or it would act more aggressively, and use the excess units to attack.
Either way, it would lower the overall amount of units moving each turn, and would encourage smaller, higher promoted strike forces rather than hundreds of units clogging bandwidth.
I'd love if someone could incorporate some of these changes into FFH. If the creators wanted to go a different path, this could be a great modmod. At the very least, although I have 0 experience doing any mod work myself, if someone could point me into the direction how I could make these changes myself, I would do the legwork myself.
I just don't like seeing a stack of Pyre Zombies...
