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NC CLXXXII - Tokugawa - Japan
The Nobles' Club series started out as a way for Noble-level (and below) players to improve their game.
Most of the original participants now play at much higher levels, so this has become a way for advanced players to help others learn to play better.
You can play your own game at any level and with any mod, but it would be nice to comment on the games of other players and give them advice so we all learn (and in Civ, learning never stops).
Our next leader is Tokugawa of Japan, whom we last played in NC CXX.
The Japanese start with Fishing and The Wheel.
Finally, a cut and paste of our standard doctrine:
There are no hard and fast rules here: fun and learning are our primary goals, but we do suggest that you update your progress at various points in the game, using the Spoiler feature of the boards. You can post as often as you like; here's one suggestion:
This is just a guideline. If you're trying to improve your game, then posting more frequent updates, in as much detail as you can manage, is the best way to get suggestions from other players. If you come to what seems like a major decision and you want some advice, post an update, regardless of what game-year it is.
We also welcome players to ask for specific game advice, as we have a number or stronger players who lurk and help out with solid tips, and of course, we help each other. Replies to specific questions should also be in spoilers, with a simple "@" in front of the person the answer is directed towards.
Special Thanks go to Bleys and TMIT, who really made this series a great one, r_rolo1, mapmaker extraordinaire for his maps for most of the series, and all of you for playing, reporting and giving advice.
The WB-saves are attached (zipped; they are bigger than standard saves). To play, simply download and unzip it into your BTS/Saves/WorldBuilder folder. Start the game, and load your favorite MOD (if you use one, if not, check out the BUG MOD), select "Play Scenario", and look for "NC 182 Noble" (or Monarch, if you want the AI to start with its usual Archery bonus tech, or Immortal for Archery+Hunting, or Deity to add Agriculture). This allows you to play with your favorite MOD at the Level and Speed of your choice. From Quick-Warlord to Marathon-Deity, all are welcome! We stuck with the name "Nobles Club" because it has a cool ring to it.
Note: The standard saves have huts and events turned ON. If you want huts but no events, select the regular save and use Custom Scenario to turn on the option that suppresses events.
For players on Prince, you should use the Noble save, there's no techs to add nor units. Players have a slightly higher handicap, the computer a lower one.
For players on Monarch or above, you should add archery as a tech for the barbarians (if you don't, the AI will capture their cities very early). This cannot be done in the WB save file and must be done in Worldbuilder as follows:
And the WB files:
WB Save Files
Have fun as always and try not to go on strike 1000BC
The Nobles' Club series started out as a way for Noble-level (and below) players to improve their game.
Most of the original participants now play at much higher levels, so this has become a way for advanced players to help others learn to play better.
You can play your own game at any level and with any mod, but it would be nice to comment on the games of other players and give them advice so we all learn (and in Civ, learning never stops).
Our next leader is Tokugawa of Japan, whom we last played in NC CXX.
The Japanese start with Fishing and The Wheel.
- Traits: Tokugawa is AGGressive and PROtective.
AGG gives Combat I to all melee and gunpowder units, and doubles production of two XP-granting buildings, barracks and drydocks.
PRO gives Drill I and City Garrison I to all archery and gunpowder units, and doubles production of two defensive buildings, walls and castles.
But where is our economy ? - The UU: The Samurai, a Maceman with two first strikes and Drill I, on paper an above average UU.
It’s great fun on lower levels but on higher levels unfortunately it comes at a time where many players want to build up their empires and/or the AI already gets longbows.
- The UB: The Shale Plant, a Coal Plant that gives +10%
(on top of the +50% Power gives to factories). It's a late-game UB, that’s why many people think it‘s weak, but it is a little production boost in late-game victory conditions.
Spoiler map details :
Spoiler WARNING / highest difficulties: :
Finally, a cut and paste of our standard doctrine:
There are no hard and fast rules here: fun and learning are our primary goals, but we do suggest that you update your progress at various points in the game, using the Spoiler feature of the boards. You can post as often as you like; here's one suggestion:
- 4000 BC (starting thoughts, no spoiler required for that discussion)
- 1000 BC or so (how you decided to progress up the early tech/build paths, which AIs you have met, where you're thinking of putting cities, etc)
- 500 AD or so (after establishing some cities and a possible plan of action)
- 1200 AD or so (mid-game, Lib race, wars or peace, or whichever happened or didn't, met other continent if applicable, etc)
- 1600 AD (or when you have decided on a course of action and a specific victory condition)
- End of game (Victory!!! or defeat, no shame in losing, especially if you tried a higher level. Learning is what we focus on, not fastest win or biggest empire)
This is just a guideline. If you're trying to improve your game, then posting more frequent updates, in as much detail as you can manage, is the best way to get suggestions from other players. If you come to what seems like a major decision and you want some advice, post an update, regardless of what game-year it is.
We also welcome players to ask for specific game advice, as we have a number or stronger players who lurk and help out with solid tips, and of course, we help each other. Replies to specific questions should also be in spoilers, with a simple "@" in front of the person the answer is directed towards.
Special Thanks go to Bleys and TMIT, who really made this series a great one, r_rolo1, mapmaker extraordinaire for his maps for most of the series, and all of you for playing, reporting and giving advice.
The WB-saves are attached (zipped; they are bigger than standard saves). To play, simply download and unzip it into your BTS/Saves/WorldBuilder folder. Start the game, and load your favorite MOD (if you use one, if not, check out the BUG MOD), select "Play Scenario", and look for "NC 182 Noble" (or Monarch, if you want the AI to start with its usual Archery bonus tech, or Immortal for Archery+Hunting, or Deity to add Agriculture). This allows you to play with your favorite MOD at the Level and Speed of your choice. From Quick-Warlord to Marathon-Deity, all are welcome! We stuck with the name "Nobles Club" because it has a cool ring to it.
Note: The standard saves have huts and events turned ON. If you want huts but no events, select the regular save and use Custom Scenario to turn on the option that suppresses events.
For players on Prince, you should use the Noble save, there's no techs to add nor units. Players have a slightly higher handicap, the computer a lower one.
For players on Monarch or above, you should add archery as a tech for the barbarians (if you don't, the AI will capture their cities very early). This cannot be done in the WB save file and must be done in Worldbuilder as follows:
Spoiler how to add techs to the barbarians :
And the WB files:
WB Save Files
Have fun as always and try not to go on strike 1000BC
Consider me 100% behind Nate's opening ^^
, 0 golden ages so far. Also missed the GL, still got 4 scientists for an academy in Bibracte and 2 bulbs into Edu + 1 into Lib
That's a LOT of wonders.
