Real Unit and Terrain Data Compiled from Civilopedia
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LoneWolf5050
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Since there are so many new visitors according to the front page, I thought I'd bump this up for their benefit.
--LW
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LoneWolf5050
Warlord
I was advised by e-mail from a player who has checked, that nuclear plants really do give 150% bonus, but require fresh water, not just any water.
The water part makes sense, I've never heard of a nuc plant that uses salt water.
The 150% part seems strange. Nuclear is a very powerful source of energy, but why give just one of the plants this big bonus and make all the others 50%? Either there should be a real hierarchy, or they should all be the same, IMHO. Not just one that's different.
I think they should also model the polution effect of Nuclear differently. It should generate no extra polution in the polution box, since it is an emission free technology. But, you should have to designate one square in the city radius as the disposal area for the spent fuel. You would just drop a little radiation icon on that square in the city view, like you drop a one citizen on the square and get the food/shields/commerce icons. The thing is, on the square with the radiation icon, you can generate no food, shields or commerce.
Probably never happen, but I think it would be a nice touch.
--LW
The water part makes sense, I've never heard of a nuc plant that uses salt water.
The 150% part seems strange. Nuclear is a very powerful source of energy, but why give just one of the plants this big bonus and make all the others 50%? Either there should be a real hierarchy, or they should all be the same, IMHO. Not just one that's different.
I think they should also model the polution effect of Nuclear differently. It should generate no extra polution in the polution box, since it is an emission free technology. But, you should have to designate one square in the city radius as the disposal area for the spent fuel. You would just drop a little radiation icon on that square in the city view, like you drop a one citizen on the square and get the food/shields/commerce icons. The thing is, on the square with the radiation icon, you can generate no food, shields or commerce.
Probably never happen, but I think it would be a nice touch.
--LW
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Lappen
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Thanx 
LoneWolf5050
Warlord
There's been a major update, so Bump!!!
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Northstar5757
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Kick ass chart. EVERYONE should download this.
Great work
Great work
LoneWolf5050
Warlord
**Update 4**
The file is now updated with the changes from the 1.16 patch.
At the time I'm typing this, it is available at http://www.magnamund.org/civ3.html however I'm sure Thunderfall will copy it to the civfanatics servers shortly.
--LW
The file is now updated with the changes from the 1.16 patch.
At the time I'm typing this, it is available at http://www.magnamund.org/civ3.html however I'm sure Thunderfall will copy it to the civfanatics servers shortly.
--LW
godot
Chieftain
LoneWolf,
One oddity I noticed was that the samurai was listed under "Mounted Units". Of course, that doesn't mean I'm not keeping a copy next to my computer as my main Civ3 reference.
Really helpful, man. I appreciate how much work this must have been.
LoneWolf5050
Warlord
Well, the Samurai is based on the knight, which is mounted. So it goes on that page.
Mech Infantry doesn't have feet, but it goes on the foot page since it's part of the lineage of foot units.
--LW
Mech Infantry doesn't have feet, but it goes on the foot page since it's part of the lineage of foot units.
--LW
back to the offsubject-subject...pdf's.
they do not have to cost ya.. for example, try using>
http://www.ghostscript.com/
it requires a two step pdf creation *print to file (postscript) first and then one must open in ghostview, and hit convert to pdf* but works for me really beautifully..
be sure to download BOTH the script AND the viewer... and then happy pdf'n!!
they do not have to cost ya.. for example, try using>
http://www.ghostscript.com/
it requires a two step pdf creation *print to file (postscript) first and then one must open in ghostview, and hit convert to pdf* but works for me really beautifully..
be sure to download BOTH the script AND the viewer... and then happy pdf'n!!
StargazingDog
Warlord
I am looking forward to an updated 1.17 version of this reference guide. 
Michelangelo
Prince
I second that. I also have some suggestions for further improvement.
- On the luxuries / resources make a devision of tradeble and non tradeble resources.
- A one page unit tree, as in the excel file of Nero Would in this same forum. This is real helpfull in planning the correct units, which can be upgraded.
- On the luxuries / resources make a devision of tradeble and non tradeble resources.
- A one page unit tree, as in the excel file of Nero Would in this same forum. This is real helpfull in planning the correct units, which can be upgraded.
stripey666
Chieftain
I have loved Civ from the first version, but with 3, I have the 1.17f patch, and have no idea whats been changed, as I am too busy trying to destroy the Russians. Need help desperatly!! new tech tree would definetly be good.
erix
Warlord
Thank you for this great job.
Is the updated version for 1.17 patch on the way?
Is the updated version for 1.17 patch on the way?
LoneWolf5050
Warlord
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the continued appreciation. I appreciate it.
The only change in 1.17 were the addition of a couple keyboard shortcuts (see the readme for details). There were no changes to unit stats or the tech tree.
The resources can be differentiated if you have a colour printout, since the background colour of the resource picture indicates if its a bonus, luxury or strategic resource.
--LW
Thanks for the continued appreciation. I appreciate it.
The only change in 1.17 were the addition of a couple keyboard shortcuts (see the readme for details). There were no changes to unit stats or the tech tree.
The resources can be differentiated if you have a colour printout, since the background colour of the resource picture indicates if its a bonus, luxury or strategic resource.
--LW
elastikone
Chieftain
this was exactly the info i was looking for,
perfect for a newb such as myself,
perfect for a newb such as myself,
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