Mitchum
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The city is settled on a grassland hill with marble.
It says research Masonry because we don't know it yet.
It says research Masonry because we don't know it yet.
SGOTM 22 - Anti-TSR
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da_Vinci
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I have uploaded T19 with nothing moved.
Darius built the oracle in the 18-19 interturn.
Wwar has killed two lions now, one in the 18-19 interturn and has a promotion in hand.
Ewar is almost back to Rome, walking forested hills. Nwar is peering into Carthage, can either still look for worker or go back.
Worker is waiting for orders, standing on pasture.
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Darius built the oracle in the 18-19 interturn.
Wwar has killed two lions now, one in the 18-19 interturn and has a promotion in hand.
Ewar is almost back to Rome, walking forested hills. Nwar is peering into Carthage, can either still look for worker or go back.
Worker is waiting for orders, standing on pasture.
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Mitchum
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Wow. That's a fast Oracle. He should build a settler before another wonder but we can monitor it.
LowtherCastle
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Very well played, DV!!! 
May I ask for a screenshot of your northern expedition?
Would be nice
Why? you know what's up there
Or, you're asking for the peanut gallery who can't post here?
Well done dV.Spears on hills. I suppose we have to expect every AI to be given this. At least it's not pre-walled or Castled. Carthage looks ok, but not a super-city like I was expecting. Could that be our future northern base of operations? Nice that it has water access.
da_Vinci
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Added some to post 402.May I ask for a screenshot of your northern expedition?
Would be nice
Including Mitchum's espionage request.
dV
da_Vinci
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Thoughts on the new scenario:
Is it worth trying for a worker steal, and tying up NWar longer in the north? Getting one back alive might be progressively less likely as time goes on.
There is a coastline in view by WWar, suggesting that perhaps the map landmass has an hourglass shape.
There is some stone at the northwest edge of the jungle in the NW, but I don't think any great city sites there.
If we are still a Go for GW, then just need a research, worker and warrior plan. But is Darius likely to get Henge and GW before we can get GW? Is he programmed that way?
dV
Is it worth trying for a worker steal, and tying up NWar longer in the north? Getting one back alive might be progressively less likely as time goes on.
There is a coastline in view by WWar, suggesting that perhaps the map landmass has an hourglass shape.
There is some stone at the northwest edge of the jungle in the NW, but I don't think any great city sites there.
If we are still a Go for GW, then just need a research, worker and warrior plan. But is Darius likely to get Henge and GW before we can get GW? Is he programmed that way?
dV
No, Darius is not the one we worry about. He won't get either wonder most likely.
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dV, if you want to Zip up the saves, I guess I'll try to figure out where AIs are at. This is our last major juncture before committing the insanity of trying to beat the AIs to GW and choosing our tech path.
Mitchum
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What are everyone's thoughts on the Oracle going so early? Good or bad?
For me, I think it's a good sign. If BSP had given the AI stone, he would have likely gone for SH or the GW before the Oracle. So we know of at least 2 AIs that got marble. Let's hope that none got stone.
If they did get stone, we should know as soon as they start going for SH or the GW because the max hammer number will sky rocket, right?
For me, I think it's a good sign. If BSP had given the AI stone, he would have likely gone for SH or the GW before the Oracle. So we know of at least 2 AIs that got marble. Let's hope that none got stone.
If they did get stone, we should know as soon as they start going for SH or the GW because the max hammer number will sky rocket, right?
LowtherCastle
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Unfortunately not. Hammer numbers are without multipliers. Espionage data includes them, but we only have data from Hannibal.
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Northern expedition: screenshot of our first raging barbarian. The one on the left was hand-selected by evil BSP.May I ask for a screenshot of your northern expedition?
Would be nice
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da_Vinci
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Northern expedition: screenshot of our first raging barbarian. The one on the left was hand-selected by evil BSP.Spoiler :
Their names are Gladius and Legion.
They are Siberian Colossal Bunnys. Bred only from exceptionally large specimens of the bunny, these fluffy nightmares can be 12 hands tall, it's hard to see in the pic as you got nothing to compare them to in the background. Russian hunters train them by using wild dogs against the younger bunnys. They are usually used to protect large areas against wolfs or to hunt bears.
Don't underestimate them.
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I need the saves to go deeper.
The reason is that some of the values on the demo screen change when we adjust our settings. In particular, the GNP changes when we pick different techs to research and when we change our citizen formm one tile to another. This sometimes enables us to see how many AIs have acquired a particular tech.
Also the hammer and food values change when we adjust our citizen(s). This can tell us some information about where the AIs are at if and when it changes our relative ranking.
I also use the AI score changes, which is the first screen and the top 5 city screen.
I'm not really a fan of you making the screenshots, because I think it's really just a waste of your time, in terms of what I need, since I need to open up each save anyway. The screenshots are useful for others who don't want to go that deeply, I suppose.
Mitchum
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So, what's the plan? I know LC wants to check the saves to see what the AI have been up to. But who's playing next or is DV still playing? Can we put a plan together or do we need LC's analysis first?
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I've updated this post on page 1 giving some reference posts to make it easier to find posts. Let me know if you'd like me to add other posts.
dV, I've added demo data from your screenshots to my spreadsheet, but I still need the saves. AIs gained T15(T10K), T16(4K), T17(6K), T19(8K), but there's no way to figure out AI techs, continued production and basically all the good stuff we'd like to know to get an idea of where AIs are at.
Incidentally, Darius completing The Oracle on T19 fits exactly with my prior analysis, assuming Darius completed the barracks on T8.
dV, I've added demo data from your screenshots to my spreadsheet, but I still need the saves. AIs gained T15(T10K), T16(4K), T17(6K), T19(8K), but there's no way to figure out AI techs, continued production and basically all the good stuff we'd like to know to get an idea of where AIs are at.
Incidentally, Darius completing The Oracle on T19 fits exactly with my prior analysis, assuming Darius completed the barracks on T8.
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da_Vinci
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Sorry about the delay, my friend with cancer was readmitted to hospital yesterday, so been spending a lot of time there.
Which means I won't be continuing to play on right now, so someone else should plan to move forward from here.
Hope this works right for the saves.
dV
Which means I won't be continuing to play on right now, so someone else should plan to move forward from here.
Hope this works right for the saves.
dV
