[BTS] SGOTM 24 Dancing Bears
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Sorry I missed Zharys post on page 3 of the pre game discussion. Sorry for delaying our end game.
Off to cook. Looks like we should finish this in 4 turns. Literally only city micro and civics to do. Plus a few photos required.
Off to cook. Looks like we should finish this in 4 turns. Literally only city micro and civics to do. Plus a few photos required.
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haphazard1
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Ah, that is a helpful post. 
I think I read that at the time, but did not recall the specifics of it. So many theoretical possibilities get raised in the pre-game threads it is hard to remember all of them months later.
But it sounds as if we should be fine. We convert, and then once we have both Asoka and Bismarck converted the counter starts running.
I think I read that at the time, but did not recall the specifics of it. So many theoretical possibilities get raised in the pre-game threads it is hard to remember all of them months later.But it sounds as if we should be fine. We convert, and then once we have both Asoka and Bismarck converted the counter starts running.
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So switch us & Asoka, Gumbo.Then Bis next turn, and we look at what else needs to be done at that point.
Anything but drama, no extra culture for him ~~
Lib will be fine, also for Bis next turn.
2t for just 1 Civic switched for us?
Interesting did not know that it's so much with 30+ cities.
Nope not possible with Bis, he has a normal amount of cities.
You should make a screenie of event log after switching Bis, for Zhary.
No need for an extra site
Save in paint, and use upload here at edit post / more options.
There's one tile you should fogbust in Toku area, but can just move all settlers on their places that works. Besides that nothing to do.
Yep
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Okay let me fire up save and look.
Okay what to trade for civic switch? Try drama? Or Lib for Indians. They already have free religion.
2 turns of anarchy for us. Will Germans face the same?
Yes 2 turns. Due to number of cities. Question is did bis face 2 turns of anarchy earlier?
Okay I will do ours and Indian switches if happy.
I will need to reset my photo account. I will also need to switch to full screen mode before I play or it won't work. Restarting game in full screen now. Not made any changes yet.
Okay what to trade for civic switch? Try drama? Or Lib for Indians. They already have free religion.
2 turns of anarchy for us. Will Germans face the same?
Yes 2 turns. Due to number of cities. Question is did bis face 2 turns of anarchy earlier?
Okay I will do ours and Indian switches if happy.
I will need to reset my photo account. I will also need to switch to full screen mode before I play or it won't work. Restarting game in full screen now. Not made any changes yet.
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Okay civic switches done and grabbed feud and world maps. Any other actions this turn? Settlers have no point in moving.
Otherwise I will end turn and do same for bis.
Toku fully fog busted.
Okay ending turn and will switch Bis. Cities have no values anyway in anarchy.
Otherwise I will end turn and do same for bis.
Toku fully fog busted.
Okay ending turn and will switch Bis. Cities have no values anyway in anarchy.
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Fippy
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Was that not obvious..forest count started when we switched anyways.
Green on switching Bis & another end turn, then we can look at cities again.
Not 100% sure how the counter works now, on what turn can we win the game now?
Good work on screenies
We can end turn, and then look at that last question.
Seems nothing silly happened, all good on that.
I fear we will have to ask again, cos it's not clear if Bis has 1 or 2 turns in Enviro now.
He could have 2 by including this turn if last turn also counts already, or only 1 if last turn does not count with him switching.
My guess would be our win date is 1110 AD, but it's just a guess.
No we should ask, we can get silver but that will be between us and Nostalgia where it's not clear at all how their game goes.
We have a clear log now of when Bis and Asoka switched, and how many FPs we had had, Zhary can help us now with telling us on what turn we can win.
No hurry anyways, was expected that with those rules we will need some confirmations.
Tired here, nitey.
Maybe give him exact dates..Asoka switched 1070AD, Bismarck 1080AD, now it's 1090 and we wonder on what turn we are allowed to see domination victory.
Green on switching Bis & another end turn, then we can look at cities again.
Not 100% sure how the counter works now, on what turn can we win the game now?
Good work on screenies
We can end turn, and then look at that last question.
Seems nothing silly happened, all good on that.
I fear we will have to ask again, cos it's not clear if Bis has 1 or 2 turns in Enviro now.
He could have 2 by including this turn if last turn also counts already, or only 1 if last turn does not count with him switching.
My guess would be our win date is 1110 AD, but it's just a guess.
No we should ask, we can get silver but that will be between us and Nostalgia where it's not clear at all how their game goes.
We have a clear log now of when Bis and Asoka switched, and how many FPs we had had, Zhary can help us now with telling us on what turn we can win.
No hurry anyways, was expected that with those rules we will need some confirmations.
Tired here, nitey.
Maybe give him exact dates..Asoka switched 1070AD, Bismarck 1080AD, now it's 1090 and we wonder on what turn we are allowed to see domination victory.
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'I think the topic was covered in the pregame discussion but otherwise Fippy you are correct. Your own env switch only sets the number of turns. When the turns are counted is up to you.'
I take that to mean 3 turns from Bismark switch?
We started counter when bis was switched.
'The turns only counts if every civ runs env. If some civs including you run env before it doesn't matter. If you don't use UN and have 5+ turns it might be common that the turn's is paused due to some Ai changing back to another civic.'
So we need both Ai to be in environmentalism for 2 more turns.
Were not going to get gold here anyway. Let's do it for 2 turns. T0 is the turn they both switched.
Guess we wait another 24 hours. He has not been on since 10.35am. Sweden so may well be tucked up in bed. Alan was on 17 mins ago.
I take that to mean 3 turns from Bismark switch?
We started counter when bis was switched.
'The turns only counts if every civ runs env. If some civs including you run env before it doesn't matter. If you don't use UN and have 5+ turns it might be common that the turn's is paused due to some Ai changing back to another civic.'
So we need both Ai to be in environmentalism for 2 more turns.
Were not going to get gold here anyway. Let's do it for 2 turns. T0 is the turn they both switched.
Guess we wait another 24 hours. He has not been on since 10.35am. Sweden so may well be tucked up in bed. Alan was on 17 mins ago.
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haphazard1
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More good work, both of you. Yes, this counter stuff is confusing. We will need to get clarification (again) to be certain. But it sounds like the counter begins running when Bismarck switched and we saw "adopted Environmentalism" in the log.
And of course now we get forest growths.
Yes, this counter stuff is confusing. We will need to get clarification (again) to be certain. But it sounds like the counter begins running when Bismarck switched and we saw "adopted Environmentalism" in the log.And of course now we get forest growths.
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Okay let's finish for 1110?
We should settle everything this turn, and set up 5 culture.
Then we are sure to get 10 in 2t everywhere, no need for complications.
Also max. culture via artists in all borders cities with Asoka.
Yup
Think i settled 2 of them
Can take guilds and Asoka gold for Astro ~~
Sure
Well you can upload and we look on tiles.
We should settle everything this turn, and set up 5 culture.
Then we are sure to get 10 in 2t everywhere, no need for complications.
Also max. culture via artists in all borders cities with Asoka.
Yup
Think i settled 2 of them
Can take guilds and Asoka gold for Astro ~~
Sure
Well you can upload and we look on tiles.
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Just eating. Yes 1110ad finish. What is left to do? Settle cities? Micro 10 culture in new cities? Probably settle next turn?
Do some cities need 2T to build up culture?
Okay shall i fire up the save and start building some cities?
Okay give me a few mins and I will look at save.
Right firing up save now.
Did you already settle the barb islands??
Should of pillaged before settling cities.
He is already teching astronomy. Have to do it for 30g
Do some cities need 2T to build up culture?
Okay shall i fire up the save and start building some cities?
Okay give me a few mins and I will look at save.
Right firing up save now.
Did you already settle the barb islands??
Should of pillaged before settling cities.
He is already teching astronomy. Have to do it for 30g
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haphazard1
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Final push for domination.
Edit 1: Several cities still short of border pop, will grab some more tiles. But land is looking worrying.
Islands north of Toku could be grabbed? Nowhere to get a settler from, though.
Edit 2: The new cities at the forested islands will grab a bunch of tiles. Should be enough? Mylene's count sounds promising.
Edit 3: Yes, let's avoid strike, just in case something unexpected happens.
Bismarck has 3 gold/turn available?
Edit 4: 55 cities! Yes, faster to look at city screen.
Edit 1: Several cities still short of border pop, will grab some more tiles. But land is looking worrying.
Islands north of Toku could be grabbed? Nowhere to get a settler from, though.
Edit 2: The new cities at the forested islands will grab a bunch of tiles. Should be enough? Mylene's count sounds promising.
Edit 3: Yes, let's avoid strike, just in case something unexpected happens.
Bismarck has 3 gold/turn available?
Edit 4: 55 cities! Yes, faster to look at city screen.
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56.92% on land. Were still 7% short here. Could we be short here??
I'll grab the 30g for nothing.
Uploaded. Took German gold for maps.
We need about 70 land? We will grab about 70 or so land. Should be okay but on limit.
We can pillage with galleon.
Sorry I have already uploaded.
Any changes??
Changed Kyoto. Plus dye city to Merchants.
We need about 27 gold and we can get 12-20 from pillaging.
Parsa is running extra merchant still got growth.
Persopolis growth now 2T.
Quicker to check city info screen. All show 5 culture now.
He now has 5 gold to trade. Could cancel spice too and take 5 g for something?
I'll grab the 30g for nothing.
Uploaded. Took German gold for maps.
We need about 70 land? We will grab about 70 or so land. Should be okay but on limit.
We can pillage with galleon.
Sorry I have already uploaded.
Any changes??
Changed Kyoto. Plus dye city to Merchants.
We need about 27 gold and we can get 12-20 from pillaging.
Parsa is running extra merchant still got growth.
Persopolis growth now 2T.
Quicker to check city info screen. All show 5 culture now.
He now has 5 gold to trade. Could cancel spice too and take 5 g for something?
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Fippy
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I get 85 new tiles with border pops, which should be fine?
Osaka & Nagoya more culture via artists please, can drop food there.
Dycity it's not needed, so we could get merchants here (if we want to use super fair play and win with no turn of strike, but 1 should be allowed)
Could also optimize Kyoto for that, and maybe a tile here and there in others.
I can see 1 mistake in "Hovenweep", Artist missing.
Persepolis can grow in 2t, just in case..if you drop mines and use fores and cottage from other city.
We can also cancel Rice & Ivory deals with Bis, to slow his growth.
Delhi can take clams from Cahokia for 2t growth (drops cottage)
Would just give him nothing
I think those are all city changes that i can see.
Green from me /wave haph
Osaka & Nagoya more culture via artists please, can drop food there.
Dycity it's not needed, so we could get merchants here (if we want to use super fair play and win with no turn of strike, but 1 should be allowed)
Could also optimize Kyoto for that, and maybe a tile here and there in others.
I can see 1 mistake in "Hovenweep", Artist missing.
Persepolis can grow in 2t, just in case..if you drop mines and use fores and cottage from other city.
We can also cancel Rice & Ivory deals with Bis, to slow his growth.
Delhi can take clams from Cahokia for 2t growth (drops cottage)
Would just give him nothing
I think those are all city changes that i can see.
Green from me /wave haph
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