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Obviously I would prefer No DRM, what do their security issues mean to me? I sure don't want to be inconvenienced by their problems. Thus, No DRM.
While not having access to the internet for life is something that may indeed be a concern, a more realistic timespan to be concerned about is more like 5 years or so. If you can manage an occasional internet connection for updates and such until 5 years from now, then you covered pretty much the needs of all but the elite most hardcore modding civ fans.Every system will have its benefits and drawbacks. If you can't see any drawbacks yourself, there's not much point asking about what they are because most of the time they are fairly specific to individuals. Just be glad it's going to be good for you.
I have some points against Steam but they are not all things that will concern all people. Take for example that having constant access to internet for life so that I can install the game at literally any time I don't take for granted. Just because I post on a forum now doesn't mean I have always had the ability to do so.
And yes, everything marketing tells you about Steam will obviously spin it in a positive light. It takes the critics, pessimists or "paranoids" to point out the problems. Achievements, ingame chat, friends lists blah blah.
Really, as ChristofferC said, this argument has been done to death. If you're happy with steam, probably best to leave it at that.
seconded.Because Gamespy was Hitler incarnate.
Besides, why are people hating on steam, steam is great. You don't have to buy it on steam if you don't want too, I'm sure thier will be non-steam versions of Civ5
seconded.
What you want to ask yourself is what is your problem with Steam.
But even better than a Manual is strategy guides, though while their may not be one about Civ 5. Most games now-a-days you can buy strategy guides for, which is like having a manual .
I really don't like Steam, for the sole reason that they only work on Intel macs. I have a PPC Mac laptop and I wanted to get CIV on that as well as my PC. I bought CIV Complete Edition for Mac. ONLY AFTER I BOUGHT IT DID IT TELL ME IT WOULDN'T WORK. AFTER SEARCHING THE SITE FOR HALF AN HOUR I FOUND IT IN A PAGE THAT YOU COULD ONLY ACCESS BY LOOKING FOR. They still have not given me a refund or replied to any of my emails. Thanks, Steam.
Patch Distribution -- distribution via ad-hoc methods is much inferior.Which of these applies to single players and cannot - for instance, by forums like this one here - be substituted?
The problem in Australia is that the Steam price is similar to the retail price.As we have seem in the thread about Australia's prices, Steam is anything but not "free".
You are referring to the automatic patch distribution without the chance to go back, right?Patch Distribution -- distribution via ad-hoc methods is much inferior.
And completely unnecessary - at least for sp gamers. In which way these could be used for mp gamers is one of the still unanswered questions.Cloud Saves -- not easy to replace.
As is the binding of games to an online account which you may loose as soon as you do not agree with future changes in the TOS.DRM -- not easy to replace (disk checks are a joke).
It being on Steam didn't increase the price in Australia. It being in Australia increased the price.
seconded.
Besides, why are people hating on steam, steam is great. You don't have to buy it on steam if you don't want too, I'm sure thier will be non-steam versions of Civ5, (Even if they are torrented unofficial pirate copies lol) but for most of us, Buying it and playing it on steam is not going to be a problem. What you want to ask yourself is what is your problem with Steam. Its awesome.
@Gevlan, yes the only reason I would want a game in hard copy rather than a digital copy over steam is because of the manuals. Having one on acrobat reader on the computer really isn't the same thing. But even better than a Manual is strategy guides, though while their may not be one about Civ 5. Most games now-a-days you can buy strategy guides for, which is like having a manual .
Because some people actually look farther than their nose.Steam is fine. I don't know why there is such a resistance.
1. Getting quite off-topic.IMO Civilopedia>Manual