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Donovan Zoi said:Honorable Chief Justice Cyc and Members of the Court,
First of all, would the court prefer that drafters of proposed polls include in their JR request the actual text of the final item being proposed? This would keep the court from having to sift through an entire thread for the actual document in question, as there are typically several incarnations of a bill before the final draft.
Personally, as I have posted all of the requests thus far, in both the listings in post #3 and here in the normal posts of the Judicial Thread, I have found it easier if the person submitting the request simply posts a link to the proposed legislation (post number represented by text). When I have to transfer the text, it usually involves editing line lengths or reformatting of some sort. Believe me, there is a LOT of cutting and pasting in this position as CJ. I would much rather copy the shortcut to the link, than all the other work involved with perfect text. By the way, if anyone should spot an error withany of the links or text, please pull my nose away from the grindstone so I can fix it.
Donovan_Zoi said:And secondly, to save the valuable time of our judges, would the court prefer that JR requests on said laws be held until the final draft is ready for submission? And if so, should the 24 hour period of final discussion that was practiced duning our initial ratification process continue to be granted prior to an amendment's submission to the court? This would ensure that the court does not mistakenly, yet through no fault of its own, submit a work-in-progress to the House. It would also give the citizens 24 hours of final discussion that they enjoyed during the ratification of most of our Constitution.
In the text that you quoted of the Judicial Procedure (post #2 of this thread), 7.B.1, Any member of the House may present proposed legislation to the Judiciary after following procedure for proposing amendments and laws., it states that any citizen may request a JR for their proposed legislation (which by then, should be in the form of a Proposed Poll). A Proposed Poll should only be drawn up at the conclusion of discussion on the matter, as a form to present to the Judiciary. I have outlined these procedures for Comnenus in Post #23. As there can be a time lag of undetermined length between the time a Proposed Poll (Legislation) is submitted to the Court and the time a JR is completed, this Court see no problem with requesting a JR for said document immediately after posting the Proposed Poll at the bottom of the discussion thread. If the 24 hour period expires before the JR is completed, the Poll may or may not be posted in the Poll sub-forum depending on the author. If the JR approves the Proposed Poll, then everything is fine and we merely have to wait for the results of the poll. If the Proposed Poll does not pass Judicial Review, then if the Poll was posted, it will need to be closed. If the Poll was not posted, then it needs to be reworked and resubmitted.This is a Judgemnet call by the author of the Proposed Poll. So in answer to your multi-pronged question, 1. Yes, before requesting a JR on a Proposed Poll, the Proposed Poll must be posted at the bottom of the discussion thread, and 2. The 24 hour period starts as soon as the Proposed Poll is posted at the bottom of the discussion thread. Keep in mind if any changes are made to the Proposed Poll, the 24 hour period starts again.