The Ancient Mediterranean MOD

Hey guys, great mod. I was wondering if its possible to implement an anti-troop war machine like ballistae in the late game. You could make it have a high withdrawl rate so you would be able to attack stacks even though it would have a relatively low attack, compared to contemporary units. It wouldn't be able to bombard or do collateral damage. Its benefits come from the fact that there are no bonuses against it so it is an equally good attacker against all units (mounted, heavy, medium infantry). It should have first strike as well for defensive purposes. Sounded good when I thought of it, now I'm not so sure...
 
heya, i downloaded the mod, and have the unopened file on my desktop. when i try to run it it wont. says "7-zip Archive not supported" do i need to install something? ty for your help...
 
Leptomeninges said:
OK - moving on to the next massive civilopedia project - the tech tree. I need quotations for many techs. I'd very much appreciate suggestions. The full list of techs needing quotes follows. Some could potentially use the same quote as another tech if we can't come up with enough different ones.

Here's a list I that I complied quickly (so there may be typos). I know that some are not the best, but it was just a first pass. If you like some of them I’ll invest more time to do more and find better ones.


Architecture

“Diphilus, the architect, has erected columns that are neither perpendicular nor opposite each other. He will have to pull them down of course. Eventually he will learn the use of the plumb-line and measuring tape” Cicero, Letters to his Brother
Quintus

“You cannot lack architects” ~Trajan, Pliny the Younger, Letters

“Let the foundations of those works be excavated from the solid earth and down to solid ground” Vitruvius, On Architecture


Boat Building

“As wide as a man skilled in ship-joinery marks out the lines for the hull of a board-beamed merchant ship, just so wide did Odysseus make his vessel.” Homer, Odyssey

“A faulty ship is a greater danger than a faulty house” Vegetius, Military Science


Civil Laws

“I gave the demos such privilege as is sufficient to them, neither adding nor taking away” ~Solon, cited in Plutarch

Copper Working

“They say that among the Indians the copper is so bright and pure and without rust, that it is not possible to distinguish it from gold.” Aristotle, On Marvellous Things Heard

Crop Rotation

“..the fruitful wheat fields, which by turns supplied men with ample sustenance from plants at one time, at another gained strength by taking a rest…” Pindar, Nemean Odes

Epics

Muse, direct upon this clan the glorious breath of song, for when men have passed out of our midst, poems and legends convey their noble deeds” Pindar, Pindar’s Victory Song

Exploration

“But I have to smile when I see all those people drawing up maps of the earth and not one explaining it sensibly.” Herodotus, Histories

Heavy Cavalry

“…the Persians drew up squadrons of cataphract cavalry, which were so massed that the angles of their bodies, seamlessly fitted with metal plates, would dazzle with their sparkle the eyes of those facing them…” Ammianus Marcellinus, History

Irrigation

“It’s all the same whether the crops are overwhelmed by the abundance of water or perish of thirst in a waterless field.” Strabo, Geography

“They shall cut off their outflow with dikes and channels, so that they might receive and absorb rainfall, forming streams and springs in all fields and regions below them, providing even the driest places with an abundant supply of water.” Plato, Laws

Nature Cult

“Nature is wholly sufficient in whatever she desires and needs nothing from art; in fact, nature is the origin of the arts themselves.” The Younger Philostratus, Imagines

“For a long time the riches of the earth were hidden, and trees and forests were thought to be the greatest gift to mortals” Pliny, Natural History

Pastoralism

“A sickly herd is a ruinous herd whose ill-health is frequently disastrous for it’s owner” Varro, On Agriculture

“The farmer hopes for reward from the earth, the rancher from his beasts, and for that reason the ploughman abhors the same green growth that the herdsman prays for.” Columella, On Agriculture

Seafaring

“You yourself wait for the proper sailing season to arrive then drag your ship to the sea and load it with suitable cargo in it, that you might bring home profit” Hesiod, Works and Days 618-634

“Look at our ports and the sea, crowded with great ships! The majority of the human race is now at sea.” Juvenal, Satires

Siege Warfare

“The king had many bolt-shooting engines of every sort, and with these he devastated the men fighting desperately from the battlements” Diodorus of Sicily, History

“..examples of what happened this night should give an appreciation of the power of machinery” Siege of Jotapata, Josephus, Jewish War

Tactics

"Who, however, would doubt that the art of war is superior to everything else" Vegetius, Military Science

Tools

“For each tool is finished to the highest degree of perfection if it serves one task rather than many” Aristotle, Politics


Urbanization

“One mistake, and not a small one, made by the engineers was that when paving the roads they did not supply them with underground drainage. Instead filth covers their surface, especially in rain.” [about the city of Smyrna] Strabo, Geography

Wood Working

These are the tools of the carpenter Leotichus: the toothed files, swift devourers of wood…” Leonidas of Tarentum, Greek Anthology

“Already Theophrastus…held this tree in high esteem, relating accounts of beams of this wood in old temples, and the virtual imperishable nature of the material in buildings, unaffected by all causes of decay” Pliny, Natural History
 
Heavy Armor/Heavy Cavalry

"..all the companies were clad in iron, and all parts of their bodies were covered with thick plates, so fitted that the stiff-joints conformed with those of their limbs; and the forms of human faces were so skilfully fitted to their heads, that since their entire body was covered with metal, arrows that fell upon them could lodge only where they could see a little through tiny openings opposite the pupil of the eye, or where through the tip of their nose they were able to get a little breath." -Procopius

" ...loricatos, quos cataphractos vocant..." ("...the armored, whom they call cataphracts...") -Sisennus

Seafaring
"If one does not know to which port one is sailing, no wind is favorable." -Seneca

Architecture
"Force has no place where there is need of skill." Herodotus

Epic
"Many brave men lived before Agamemnon; but all are overwhelmed in eternal night, unwept, unknown, because they lack a sacred poet." -Horace

Heroism
"Come home with this shield, or upon it." Spartan saying

Civil Laws
"The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -Aristotle

Aristocracy
"What power has law where only money rules." -Gaius Petronius

Tactics
"Another such victory over the Romans, and we are undone." -Pyrrhus
"It is a bad plan that admits of no modification." -Publilius Syrus

Dynasticism (I know it only in hungarian but I try to put it down in english)
"He who founds a dynasty is a hero. His son is medicore at best. But his grandson is an imbecile." -Caesar
 
"A good farmer takes with force the bread from the earth."

"A clean hand, an empty stomach."

"Liberty has its roots in blood."

"With a spade of gold and a hoe of silver even the mountains rock and sway."
 
I can't get 1.5 to load. Civ always crashes to desktop while loading the mod. Always with a standard error message: Civ4 has encountered a problem

I've made sure to delete the TAM-Folder before installing... tried re-DLing... nothing helps!

Reinstalled 1.4 and that is working fine, as do my other mods. Has to be an issue with 1.5.

Anyone have an idea what else I can do to get 1.5. to run? Anyone else having problems?
 
Yes, it was a problem with the map. I fixed it and now it works.

Please delete the previous map and replace it with this one (after you unzip it).
 

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Originally Posted by thamis
There is no spoon.

No spoon :confused:

Quote from "The Matrix".
 
Shqype said:
Heroism:
"He who does for his fatherland, does not die, but is reborn." - Albanian saying

motherland ;)
 
Ive just downloaded this MOD, I must admit it looks fantastic...

Ive read in the earlier posts that this MOD is MP, but I notice the other leaders appear all OPEN as opposed to the drop down AI. Are the other Leaders able to be AI? And if so HOW?

Cheers
 
I'm on my way to work so I only glanced through those quotes, but it looks like many of them will be very useful! Thanks :goodjob: Any other suggestions are also welcome.
 
Caldwell said:
Ive just downloaded this MOD, I must admit it looks fantastic...

Ive read in the earlier posts that this MOD is MP, but I notice the other leaders appear all OPEN as opposed to the drop down AI. Are the other Leaders able to be AI? And if so HOW?

Cheers

if you play in MP, be sure to start as Scenario and choose TAM map as scenario.
 
onedreamer said:
if you play in MP, be sure to start as Scenario and choose TAM map as scenario.

Thanks for the quick reply onedreamer....

I think Im selecting everything ok. One thing I have noticed is that the Mod doesn't appear in the scenarios list unless you go into 'Play scenario' load the mod and then go back to MP. Can you guess Ive just got the game!!! :lol:

Its in MP lobby after selecting the scenario mod & Map, all bar my choice of CIV is greyed out in the 'open' mode. Is it that any non player selected CIV automatically goes AI or do I as host have to select which CIV's then become AI players? If I as host have to then decide which CIV's go AI then thats the problem....the option is locked and greyed out!!!!!

Sorry If I am being dense here :crazyeye:
 
thamis said:
Doesn't do anything yet. It's meant to become a religious victory (which works like UN -- Holy Roman Empire).

Thamis, could you give us more of your thoughts on the christianity-issue (religious victory).:undecide:
If I build the UN-wonder in Civ4 i'm guaranteed to be one of the nominees for secretary-general and if the other civs think i'm a nice guy they vote for me and i win a dipl. victory.
If I found christianity in TAM (or perhaps build the vatican, or claim to be the holy roman empire), how would that make me a winner in the eyes of the followers of druidism, the muslims or the jews? :confused:
 
Ingvinr Frey said:
Thamis, could you give us more of your thoughts on the christianity-issue (religious victory).:undecide:
If I build the UN-wonder in Civ4 i'm guaranteed to be one of the nominees for secretary-general and if the other civs think i'm a nice guy they vote for me and i win a dipl. victory.
If I found christianity in TAM (or perhaps build the vatican, or claim to be the holy roman empire), how would that make me a winner in the eyes of the followers of druidism, the muslims or the jews? :confused:

The idea is:

You build Christianity Wonder, which is basically UN. This secures a nomination. The best way to make other civs like you is to convert them to your religion. We'll look into the possibility of making all Christian CIVs vote for you atuomatically.
 
thamis said:
The idea is:

You build Christianity Wonder, which is basically UN. This secures a nomination. The best way to make other civs like you is to convert them to your religion. We'll look into the possibility of making all Christian CIVs vote for you atuomatically.

I see, and what would all civs vote about (instead of secretary-general)?

Ps Sorry about being uptight about historical accuracy! Ds:)
 
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