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Thank you! The OP was updated to post #179. The OP is fully up-to-date.
So uhm, this is weird:
Mayans, Victory: 1420, 3000BC-scenario, Monarch/Normal, SVN 871, Score: 4878
I won by being discovered. Probably my Caravel (I just upgraded my trireme the turn before) spotted them before they saw any land and so I get the conqueror-event and yet still win.
edit: upon looking at the save in 1420 that doesn't seem too likely.
I really don't recommend trying the Mayans right now, in this game I got a lucky start (one of the Holkans defending the Native city west of you died attacking my starting Holkan allowing me to conquer the city earlier), then I got the Great Lighthouse AND the Colossus around 900-1100AD and I basically reloaded every single fight vs barbarians and still basically lost the game.
Oof. All that work to win the Mayan UHV, and I have to start back at the beginning. I'm not sure if 'failed UHV attempts' belong here or in some other thread, but I was just so close....
ID:
Version: 1.12 (no SVN)
Scenario: 3000BC
Civilisation: Maya
Difficulty: Regent
Gamespeed: Marathon
Score: N/A
Victory: none (so close, yet so far)
Spoiler :
The year is 1413. Having just discovered Optics, the Mayans quickly constructed two ships of a new design, called 'caravels.' Travelling in either direction, they soon circumnavigate the globe (!) and establish diplomatic contact with most if not all of the nations around the world. Trading maps with the Khmer, Pacal was stunned to find that he was among the greatest nations on the planet, second only to the long-dominant Chinese empire that had weathered the Mongol hordes without a scratch, just as Pacal himself had weathered the Mexica (Aztec) uprising without great losses.
Spoiler :
Thanks to aggressive early expansion, the Mayan Empire had settled the best locales of North America and built up thriving cities in short order. Thanks to an apparent collapse of the Classical World (Christianity was founded in Mecca, to give you an idea of how profound the destruction of Europe was...), there was an abundance of world wonders yet available, including the Parthenon, and so the empire became a Federal Republic. Thanks to good relations with the Ethiopians, the Mayans had traded for slaves to boost the productivity of their major cities. And thanks to a network of ball courts and the Statue of Zeus, the Mayans looked to finish out their historic rise in the midst of a Golden Age.
Unfortunately, it was not to be. It had been a Moorish caravel that discovered the 'New World,' and they had received the conquerors event against the Inca. I had been plowing my espionage points against them in hopes that I could still use my spy on their nearby city and maybe steal a tech. The very next turn after I took the above screenshot, my espionage reached the point where I could see their civilization demographics, and I learned that the Moors were 2 (!) turns away from completing research on Astronomy.
Oof.
I was playing with the basic version 1.12, no SVN, so I can't say how things might have changed, but I think I understand why the old UHV was reset to some other condition. I'm not sure how tech costs are calculated, so I can't say whether my expansion helped or hindered my tech rate (though my cities were just about as perfectly developed as you could get early in the game). But I think I played about as good a game as you can get, and I was still beaten to the punch.
Also I tried to upload the save but the sites says the file is too big, is there anyway around it?