I_qua_I
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This thread is inspired by Moriboe's Building Made Fun wonder Petra.
Petra: +5
+5
(city must be next to a mountain AND next to or on a desert) It is unlocked with engineering.
There are a number of really great mods out there with a number of really great new things to play with. Wonders are one of those little things I get really excited about so I always love when I stumble across a particularly nice one.
Moriboe's Petra is balanced, simple, elegant, and versatile. It allows the player to turn a foodless desert city in the middle of nowhere into a productive one or make an already nice city even nicer. It frees up some tiles for other improvements (Did you need gold? Now you can take advantage of the free tiles by building trading posts. Want science instead? Keep the tiles farmed to further add to the growth.) It's a great design that lends itself to a number of playstyles. The double terrain requirement also encourages (even if only minimally) purposeful city placement as opposed to ICS and imbues the terrain with more of a sense of meaning and purpose. Most importantly it is fun!
Anyway, I thought it would be fun to come up with some new ideas for wonders/wonder effects collectively. It is unrealistic to really know which ones would work well in the game until they are actually implemented so don't be afraid that your ideas aren't balanced/good etc. Just throw anything out there!
I kicked the list off with three ideas of my own. I'll be copying and pasting submitted wonders up here in the list for ease of reading. I'll include the names of the people who thought up each one (unless otherwise requested) to give credit to the creative minds at work. Also, don't worry about duplicating the names of wonders. Feel free to come up with your own Sphinx, for example, even if someone already used the name for a wonder of their own. Thanks in advance for any contributions and to all the wonderful modders out there who make the game more fun for everyone!
The Wonder List
Sphinx: +8, unlocked with masonry, 1 great engineer point per turn (OK, so technically this one isn't a new wonder (It's just another Stonehenge) but I always felt that if you didn't get Stonehenge a cultural victory would be a nightmare (if it's even a viable option anymore.) This is unfortunate because it really limited the number of serious peaceful cultural victory contenders to 1. This wonder might spice up friendly competetion making peaceful games less boring. (I qua I)
Terracotta Army: Unit maintenence cost reduced by 50%, unlocked with chivalry, 1 great general point per turn. (might be fun deciding between cheaper armies or the more efficient one granted by Himeji.) OR reduce the cost by 25% and have it unlock at pottery (this option would be more accurate in terms of it's real-world construction I think.) (I qua I)
Hoover Dam: +3
per turn in each city, unlocked with electricity, 2 great engineer points per turn. City must be built on a river tile. (I qua I)
Panama Canal: +200% in the city. City must be built next to sea. (YourDeath/TSAR)
Theodosian Wall: +2
in every city. (YourDeath/TSAR)
Hanseatic League: City state
decreases by 15% less. (YourDeath/TSAR)
Mausoleum of Maussollos: +4 unlocked with mathematics, +4 great artist points per turn. (I qua I)
Wall Street: +30%
. City must contain bank, market, mint. (lolocoster)
The Internet +15% from 
. (lolocoster)
Gulag: +2
, +8. (lolocoster)
Autobahn: +2
per turn on roads, road maintenance decreased by 30%. (lolocoster)
Acropolis: +1 from every Specialist in every City, unlocked with philosophy, 1 great engineer point per turn. City must be on a Hill. (black213)
Statue of Zeus: +1 per 1
in the city where it is built, unlocked with philosophy, 1 great artist point per turn. (black213)
Abbey Road Studios: + 2
, +4 , unlocked with radio. 1 great artist point per turn. (sav)
National Broadcaster (like the BBC)
(National) Broadcast towers 50% more effective, unlocked with mass media. Requires broadcast tower in every city (?) (sav)
Nationwide Talent Search (like Idol, etc): (National) +2, each turn has 1/100 chance (scaled for game length) of generating a great artist, unlocked with mass media. (sav)
Beehive: Cuts building maintenance by 50% in the city in which it is built, unlocked with telegraph (or electronics?) - +1 per turn, +1 great engineer point per turn. (sav)
Alhambra: +50% in the city in which it is built, +3 unlocked with chivalry, 2 great engineer points per turn. City must be on a hill. (Pouakai)
The Great Cothon/Carthage Harbor: +25% for every sea-based , +50% military units received from militaristic 
. (Bowsling)
Abu Simbel: +1:gold on river tiles within cultural infulence of the city, +4. City must be on a river, be built on or next to a hill. (Pouakai)
Empire State Building: +2, +5 OR Broadcast Tower in every city, 2 great engineer points per turn. (Cashie)
Ha long bay: (Natural) Acts as a coast tile, but cannot end turn on it. +3 culture and +2 science (Pouakai)
The Blarney Stone: (Natural) Improves foreign relations, +1 gold, -1 food (Cashie)
Ishtar Gate: +4 strength in every city or maybe a free wall in every city, unlocked with masonry. 1 great engineer point per turn. (I qua I)
Temple of Artemis: +6 gold from cattle, deer, and sheep, unlocked with philosophy. (city only receives the bonus once for each type of resource.) 1 great merchant point per turn. (I qua I)
The Parthenon: Not exactly new (same as civ 4) 100% increase in great person production. 1 great artist point per turn. (Civ 4)
CN Tower: Unlocked at Mass Media, +5 gold in this City... +10% Global Output... +2GE... must be built in a city which has a Lake nearby & a Stadium. (Zyxpsilon)
Channel Tunnel: Unlocked at Stealth, Lowers cost of Road+Railroads maintenance by 75%... +10 happiness... +3 great merchant points per turn, Must be built in a coastal city that has both an Harbor and a Seaport. (Zyxpsilon)
The Parthenon: +25% gold, +1 gold per specialist in city where built, unlocked at Writing. 2 great merchant points per turn. (black213)
Sphinx: 20% GLOBAL culture, unlocked with masonry. 1 great engineer point per turn. (I qua I)
The Registan: +20% trade route income, +4 science, requires plains. (Moriboe)
Cern: +5 science, +2 great scientist points. (Scilly guy)
World Trade Centre: All trade routes globally +50%, +2 Great Merchant points, +10 base city-state influence. (Scilly guy)
Panama Canal: ...it could be like a super-improvement, allowing movement of ships over, maybe, two land tiles from one ocean to another, with a bonus as well. (Camikaze)
Silicon Valley: + 10% Science, - 10% Modern Building costs, + 10% Culture + 5% culture and science civ wide + Great Scientist or Great Artist Slot (Terrance888)
Petra: +5
+5 (city must be next to a mountain AND next to or on a desert) It is unlocked with engineering.There are a number of really great mods out there with a number of really great new things to play with. Wonders are one of those little things I get really excited about so I always love when I stumble across a particularly nice one.
Moriboe's Petra is balanced, simple, elegant, and versatile. It allows the player to turn a foodless desert city in the middle of nowhere into a productive one or make an already nice city even nicer. It frees up some tiles for other improvements (Did you need gold? Now you can take advantage of the free tiles by building trading posts. Want science instead? Keep the tiles farmed to further add to the growth.) It's a great design that lends itself to a number of playstyles. The double terrain requirement also encourages (even if only minimally) purposeful city placement as opposed to ICS and imbues the terrain with more of a sense of meaning and purpose. Most importantly it is fun!
Anyway, I thought it would be fun to come up with some new ideas for wonders/wonder effects collectively. It is unrealistic to really know which ones would work well in the game until they are actually implemented so don't be afraid that your ideas aren't balanced/good etc. Just throw anything out there!
I kicked the list off with three ideas of my own. I'll be copying and pasting submitted wonders up here in the list for ease of reading. I'll include the names of the people who thought up each one (unless otherwise requested) to give credit to the creative minds at work. Also, don't worry about duplicating the names of wonders. Feel free to come up with your own Sphinx, for example, even if someone already used the name for a wonder of their own. Thanks in advance for any contributions and to all the wonderful modders out there who make the game more fun for everyone!
The Wonder List
Sphinx: +8
, unlocked with masonry, 1 great engineer point per turn (OK, so technically this one isn't a new wonder (It's just another Stonehenge) but I always felt that if you didn't get Stonehenge a cultural victory would be a nightmare (if it's even a viable option anymore.) This is unfortunate because it really limited the number of serious peaceful cultural victory contenders to 1. This wonder might spice up friendly competetion making peaceful games less boring. (I qua I)Terracotta Army: Unit maintenence cost reduced by 50%, unlocked with chivalry, 1 great general point per turn. (might be fun deciding between cheaper armies or the more efficient one granted by Himeji.) OR reduce the cost by 25% and have it unlock at pottery (this option would be more accurate in terms of it's real-world construction I think.) (I qua I)
Hoover Dam: +3
per turn in each city, unlocked with electricity, 2 great engineer points per turn. City must be built on a river tile. (I qua I)Panama Canal: +200%
in the city. City must be built next to sea. (YourDeath/TSAR)Theodosian Wall: +2
in every city. (YourDeath/TSAR)Hanseatic League: City state
decreases by 15% less. (YourDeath/TSAR)Mausoleum of Maussollos: +4
unlocked with mathematics, +4 great artist points per turn. (I qua I)Wall Street: +30%
. City must contain bank, market, mint. (lolocoster)The Internet +15%
from . (lolocoster)Gulag: +2
, +8. (lolocoster)Autobahn: +2
per turn on roads, road maintenance decreased by 30%. (lolocoster)Acropolis: +1
from every Specialist in every City, unlocked with philosophy, 1 great engineer point per turn. City must be on a Hill. (black213)Statue of Zeus: +1
per 1 in the city where it is built, unlocked with philosophy, 1 great artist point per turn. (black213)Abbey Road Studios: + 2
, +4 , unlocked with radio. 1 great artist point per turn. (sav)National Broadcaster (like the BBC)
(National) Broadcast towers 50% more effective, unlocked with mass media. Requires broadcast tower in every city (?) (sav)Nationwide Talent Search (like Idol, etc): (National) +2
, each turn has 1/100 chance (scaled for game length) of generating a great artist, unlocked with mass media. (sav)Beehive: Cuts building maintenance by 50% in the city in which it is built, unlocked with telegraph (or electronics?) - +1
per turn, +1 great engineer point per turn. (sav)Alhambra: +50%
in the city in which it is built, +3 unlocked with chivalry, 2 great engineer points per turn. City must be on a hill. (Pouakai)The Great Cothon/Carthage Harbor: +25%
for every sea-based , +50% military units received from militaristic . (Bowsling)Abu Simbel: +1:gold on river tiles within cultural infulence of the city, +4
. City must be on a river, be built on or next to a hill. (Pouakai)Empire State Building: +2
, +5 OR Broadcast Tower in every city, 2 great engineer points per turn. (Cashie)Ha long bay: (Natural) Acts as a coast tile, but cannot end turn on it. +3 culture and +2 science (Pouakai)
The Blarney Stone: (Natural) Improves foreign relations, +1 gold, -1 food (Cashie)
Ishtar Gate: +4 strength in every city or maybe a free wall in every city, unlocked with masonry. 1 great engineer point per turn. (I qua I)
Temple of Artemis: +6 gold from cattle, deer, and sheep, unlocked with philosophy. (city only receives the bonus once for each type of resource.) 1 great merchant point per turn. (I qua I)
The Parthenon: Not exactly new (same as civ 4) 100% increase in great person production. 1 great artist point per turn. (Civ 4)
CN Tower: Unlocked at Mass Media, +5 gold in this City... +10% Global Output... +2GE... must be built in a city which has a Lake nearby & a Stadium. (Zyxpsilon)
Channel Tunnel: Unlocked at Stealth, Lowers cost of Road+Railroads maintenance by 75%... +10 happiness... +3 great merchant points per turn, Must be built in a coastal city that has both an Harbor and a Seaport. (Zyxpsilon)
The Parthenon: +25% gold, +1 gold per specialist in city where built, unlocked at Writing. 2 great merchant points per turn. (black213)
Sphinx: 20% GLOBAL culture, unlocked with masonry. 1 great engineer point per turn. (I qua I)
The Registan: +20% trade route income, +4 science, requires plains. (Moriboe)
Cern: +5 science, +2 great scientist points. (Scilly guy)
World Trade Centre: All trade routes globally +50%, +2 Great Merchant points, +10 base city-state influence. (Scilly guy)
Panama Canal: ...it could be like a super-improvement, allowing movement of ships over, maybe, two land tiles from one ocean to another, with a bonus as well. (Camikaze)
Silicon Valley: + 10% Science, - 10% Modern Building costs, + 10% Culture + 5% culture and science civ wide + Great Scientist or Great Artist Slot (Terrance888)
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