tedhebert
Emperor
Hi all,
the idea raised in the Portugal video thread on how they'd be a great target for a OCC has sunk its claws in my head ;-)
I've never really seriously tried a OCC. Would like some tips from you all on how YOU'D go about it:
- What map type and size should be used ?
- What victory condition would you gun for with Portugal ?
- What would be your primary early goals/targets ?
- What would be your long time goals/targets ?
- What do you think is the highest game level a OCC victory can be achieved without exploits ?
For myself, my first musings on this is going archipelago, Huge map (to get 11 other civs), reroll if necessary to get a minimum quality start. Like at least a location where there's a possibility of building a harbor and Colossus, Great Lighthouse, Venetian Arsenal and Mausoleum. Not saying getting all 4 would be doable, but at least have the possibility for it.
I'm figuring I'd want to go OWL then go crazy on CS trade routes. So rapidly do the strict minimum to defend from AI if needed, then put all energy on Galleys... Wonder if we'll be able to upgrade from Galley to NAU ? or if they'll have to be hard built ? I guess the latter...
I'm thinking Kilwa, Great Zim, Oracle, Oxford and Ruhr would also be interesting targets for wonders. And of course all the extra policy wonders. The others I find unsuitable for OCC.
What I'm having trouble figuring out is what VC to go for. The only one I can think of is Diplomacy, using all the CSes you can suze with owls.
I don't think SV is a possible target, even with the science bonuses of Portugal ? Especially with the way the AI is now going all out on science.
And I also don't think it's desirable to get a religion ? Seems like a lot of effort to get one with only one HS, and after that not getting much faith economy ? A pantheon for sure, that's all I guess.
Is Culture a possible goal ? If so, how ?
I'm a little stumped here. I could use your global experience on having fun with OCC.
Thanks
the idea raised in the Portugal video thread on how they'd be a great target for a OCC has sunk its claws in my head ;-)
I've never really seriously tried a OCC. Would like some tips from you all on how YOU'D go about it:
- What map type and size should be used ?
- What victory condition would you gun for with Portugal ?
- What would be your primary early goals/targets ?
- What would be your long time goals/targets ?
- What do you think is the highest game level a OCC victory can be achieved without exploits ?
For myself, my first musings on this is going archipelago, Huge map (to get 11 other civs), reroll if necessary to get a minimum quality start. Like at least a location where there's a possibility of building a harbor and Colossus, Great Lighthouse, Venetian Arsenal and Mausoleum. Not saying getting all 4 would be doable, but at least have the possibility for it.
I'm figuring I'd want to go OWL then go crazy on CS trade routes. So rapidly do the strict minimum to defend from AI if needed, then put all energy on Galleys... Wonder if we'll be able to upgrade from Galley to NAU ? or if they'll have to be hard built ? I guess the latter...
I'm thinking Kilwa, Great Zim, Oracle, Oxford and Ruhr would also be interesting targets for wonders. And of course all the extra policy wonders. The others I find unsuitable for OCC.
What I'm having trouble figuring out is what VC to go for. The only one I can think of is Diplomacy, using all the CSes you can suze with owls.
I don't think SV is a possible target, even with the science bonuses of Portugal ? Especially with the way the AI is now going all out on science.
And I also don't think it's desirable to get a religion ? Seems like a lot of effort to get one with only one HS, and after that not getting much faith economy ? A pantheon for sure, that's all I guess.
Is Culture a possible goal ? If so, how ?
I'm a little stumped here. I could use your global experience on having fun with OCC.
Thanks