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[101rstImperial]

Does anyone know why I can't build Polish Retainers... as Poland?

Screenshot.

Polish

The Polish (faction colour maroon) are a Catholic faction. They cannot launch crusades. Polish Retainers are on a par with Feudal Knights, and have much lower building requirements, but they are unavailable in the Early era if the game has been patched to v1.1 or later.

Nevermind, Wiki delivers. Anyone know if, once the game gets into the later stages, I can build them? Or am I just screwed because I started in the Early period?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I assume this is MTW?

If so, then yes, you can build them once you reach the High Age, in 1204.

EDIT: I looked at the screenshot, so yes.

Although, I must ask: if it's 1166, and you have those six disgustingly awesome generals, why have you not completely dominated the entirely of Eastern and Central Europe yet? By that time as the Poles, I usually rule Europe East from Brandenburg.

 

[101rstImperial]

Although, I must ask: if it's 1166, and you have those six disgustingly awesome generals, why have you not completely dominated the entirely of Eastern and Central Europe yet? By that time as the Poles, I usually rule Europe East from Brandenburg.

They're all my princes, the Missis just keeps kicking them out. ^_^

And I'm bad at warmongering. I don't have a lot of faith in spamming Militia or Spearmen so I generally only warmonger as Denmark.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

"I do not fear an army of lions led by a sheep. I do fear an army of sheep led by a lion" - Alexander the Great

Your urban militia and spearmen will perform superbly, I assure you, so long as you don't get your general killed, or do anything excessively stupid.

 

[101rstImperial]

It's mainly their horrible morale that makes me leery. One you start getting Fuedal/Chivalric units I'm a lot more comfortable, or Vikings.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Also, you can field Woodsmen if you invade Scandanavia or the Principality of Novgorod. Give them a shield and weapons upgrade, and they're quite effective infantry units.

 

[101rstImperial]

Does Novgorod have iron?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

You don't need iron to build an Armory.

 

[101rstImperial]

Yeah, but that's only an armor upgrade, you do need iron for a weapons upgrade.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Well Woodsmen have axes, so their attack is already better than average; it's their armor that is seriously lacking, and will get a lot of your men killed very fast. I consider armor upgrades imperative for Woodsmen and the like, and Metalsmiths to be simply nice to have around.

 

[101rstImperial]

I'll definitely keep it in mind.

On another note, it seems like only 3 people post in here these days.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

It's not the fastest subforum in the world, but at least there's activity. Some subforums haven't been posted in in months.

 

[101rstImperial]

Yeah, well... it's the only one that really interests me these days. I stopped playing Civ 3 after it got to easy, don't have 2 anymore, don't like 4 and won't be buying Revolution because my comp can barely run 4.

 

[Traitorfish]

You won't buy the console version... Because your PC isn't good enough?

 

[101rstImperial]

The idea of Civ on a console makes my stomach turn.

 

[Maeda Toshiie]

Polish Retainers are a tad weaker than feudal knights. 8/3/3/4/4 vs 8/4/3/4/8
Charge/Attack/Def/Armour/Morale

Of course, if you train them out of Poland, they get +1 valour, which gives them a slight edge in combat against FKs.

The 10 iron provinces in MTW:
Aragon
Narvarre
Castile
Leon
Franconia
Bohemia
Hungary
Carpathia
Sweden
Tuscany

 

[101rstImperial]

What a great post, my thanks.