Poland Discussions

[JanghanHong]

The joke is they wanted to prevent x-months of spam and whine from poles for Poland in yet another Civ game.

Jokes aside, as a proud pole, i`m thrilled that we get our nation as a playable official civilization. Winged Hussars are comming, be prepared, and very afraid

Maybe the developers just realized that they really really wanted Poland all along but they were too ashamed about it.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I am so pleased to have Poland in the game, only because, being from Poland myself, it's gonna be intrested to hear Casimir speak.

And they have never been represented before so it's knew, but I gotta admit I'm once again not a big fan of the color scheme (bit of an eye sore) and the leaderscreen looks wonky.

About the UB name, I think it sounds more as Prince's Stable. (Ksiazeca seems to come across as Prince in this case..)

 

[Camikaze]

Another possible reason for Poland being announced first is that that might have been the only civ they had ready to announce.

 

[mscibor]

PS. to answer a bet of 10$, I BET that you will see NO Vilnus at all in Poland faction as a city name. Not only as the third city, but never at all.

It seems that there will be Vilnus in Poland:

Spoiler :

(from Jabberwockxeno post http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12307893&postcount=20)

To be honest I'm quite surprised. And I don't think that this is good idea after all...

 

[MaximusK]

Ducal Stable

Awesome bonus to pastures.



More screenies from PAX at my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/josiahkeen/sets/72157633069474841/

 

[Drzewiec]

Great news except this BLACK eagle...

 

[MaximusK]

Details on UU/UB and more screenshots at http://www.flickr.com/photos/josiahkeen/sets/72157633069474841/

 

[Dreadnought]

The red and black makes Poland look like Albania...

 

[Art Grin]

They should really switch Poland's and Austria's colours.

 

[mscibor]

The red and black makes Poland look like Albania...

Before today's announcement I was thinking that they will switch Poland color theme with Austria. In the end Austria has (for long time) black eagle. I don't understand this decission

Edit: ninja'd by Art Grin

 

[King William I]

Yet another Eagle symbol

 

[TheLohoped]

I can bet 10$ that the first three cities in the list are going to be Warsaw, Kraków and Vilnius.

It seems that there will be Vilnus in Poland:

Spoiler :

(from Jabberwockxeno post http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12307893&postcount=20)

I knew this! Vilnius is in the polish list. Maybe not third but definitely one of the first five cities.

 

[DataTraveler]

I don't like that Vilnius was included in Poland. It was never a true Polish city...

 

[Louis XXIV]

It was a city in either the Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, no? Firaxis is a fan of these dual-culture kingdoms. Denmark includes the period of Denmark-Norway. Sweden includes the time they ruled Finland. It would make a lot of sense for Poland to include Lithuanian cities to continue this trend.

 

[DataTraveler]

It was a city in either the Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, no? Firaxis is a fan of these dual-culture kingdoms. Denmark includes the period of Denmark-Norway. Sweden includes the time they ruled Finland. It would make a lot of sense for Poland to include Lithuanian cities to continue this trend.

Maybe it makes me angry just because I always wanted Lithuania to be in
If they are making the dual-culture kingdom then at least they could have chosen a leader from Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth era.
Because now its just Poland and Vilnius is thrown in as it was their city.

 

[Louis XXIV]

You're right that it's less than the others. Unless the UB could be from that era.

However, Lithuania would be a longshot otherwise. This at least gives them some inclusion.

 

[LastSword]

Powerful UA (new cultural victory doesn't matter; it just make a possibility for such an ability), up to 7 free policies in game (seriously, I cannot imagine how much policies could be possible nerfed to make this UA a weak/medium one).

On the other hand, Ducal Stable is rather weak (1st: city needs pasture/resource to build it; 2nd: bonuses are quite medicore; 3rd: no info if stables do not provide gold by default in BNW, considering economy's rebalance). It's not like mounted units are favoured anyway.

Winged Hussars, replacing Lancers. Lancers. Lancers upgraded to Anti-tank Gun. Lancers with that huge window before Rifleman and Cavalry. Sipahi at least is king of pillaging. I am looking forward to see WHs' usage, though I am quite sceptical right now. I am not excepting huge changes around combat neither.

UA balanced with UU and UB? Nope, that UA sounds so unrealistically imba (maybe they will balance it, by adding "before Atom Era"?), while UB still seems better than Krepost for example. I like to play with Social Policies so this civ probably become one of my favourite. Especially if WH's special ability will be at least funny to use (not necessary useful).

Messing color of eagle is quite strange, but I don't mind it.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I don't think you need a Pasture for a Ducal Stable. It's certainly advantageous, but you can still build it for the greater experienced, faster building mounted units.

 

[seancolorado]

Winged Hussars, replacing Lancers. Lancers. Lancers upgraded to Anti-tank Gun. Lancers with that huge window before Rifleman and Cavalry. Sipahi at least is king of pillaging. I am looking forward to see WHs' usage, though I am quite sceptical right now. I am not excepting huge changes around combat neither.

Same. Lancers are notoriously unpopular units around here but as a complimentary piece to an army they can be useful. Sipahi is definitely that kind of complimentary piece. Hakkapeliita I'm not so sure I ever understood.

Winged Hussars however seem like they could be great. Send em in to break the up an enemy line and send em away to heal them up, only to have them come back and do it again (speculation obviously because we don't know how this perk works)

 

[Matthew.]

Sounds like it will work just like the Inca slinger except reversed: You attack and the enemy unit is pushed back a single tile if there is room. I'd assume the winged hussar stays on the same tile and doesn't move with the attacked unit.