Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
After skimming through the stats, I noticed Farou has a whopping 500 ships. I thought the Trilui had the largest navy. Is this an error in the stats or the rankings?
After skimming through the stats, I noticed Farou has a whopping 500 ships. I thought the Trilui had the largest navy. Is this an error in the stats or the rankings?
There was no population map... Only an economic map (which is still there).
That was a civilized zone map.
Bumped for (own and otherwise) future use and out of principle.
EDIT: Okay, a question to Ninja Dude, or possibly Enki. Just how does that Uggor family system work at this point (i.e. in Krato; the Moti are likely to be a) different and b) generally more backwards)? It seems well-suited for semi-nomadic pastoralism (which would likely be the initial stage of Uggor socio-economic history), but since then the Krato seem to have adapted a more sedentary and civilised lifestyle, inasmuch as that is possible in a savannah. I suppose you could say that was reflected in the rise of larger villages and greater socio-economic specialisation of various tribes (as seen in Ninja Dude's first story). Still, while family (in this case probably more similar to a clan than anything else) based organisation sort of works for an economy based on a combination of animal herding and agriculture (and I suppose that those families that had somehow lost too many of their lands and herds would have to take up warfare and/or trade to survive), it sort of falls apart when you have large cities and well-developed commerce. I mean, formal family ties would be impossible to destroy, but I would think that most of the people in cities would have to live in much smaller family units, economically if not politically independent from their rural families. One would also think that after a while, families that have grown large enough would begin to split, with their splinters setting out to claim new lands... Anyway, my main point is that by now one would expect even the most conservative and clan-based culture to start changing, at least in the more economically advanced areas. Just a point for consideration, ofcourse; I would very much like to know what is considered canon for the Krato, since it looks like we will be neighbours after all.
On a related note, what are the traditional Uggor property rights? I sort of assumed that there is family property which is distributed between the smaller family units and/or individuals within the family, but upon their death goes back to the family and is redistributed again.
Also, about the chiefs. I understand the chiefs are generally heads of their families, and that, under the Council of Chiefs system, some of them (presumably heads of the largest and strongest families, and/or the traditional leaders) receive various special functions. How are those distributed? Are they hereditary? Or are those "magistrates" elected from amongst their own number by the other chiefs upon the death of their predecessors? Is it a combination thereof (i.e. if a line of cropchiefs somehow dies out or a hereditary cropchief commits some grave crime and is removed by the council, does the council elect a new one from another line, or does it pass to some other member of the family or something like that)?
EDIT EDIT: While I'm at it, is there writing in Krato? And Moti? If we have it, then for how long did we have it? Do the Uggor have their own alphabet, or did they borrow it from one of the other populations?
The familes are starting to turn more into clans as more power is gained by fewer families.
Most of the property of someone who has died will go to his immediate relatives. Then some will go to cousins, nephews, uncles, and aunts. And finally (if the person was extremely wealthy) some of the property is given to his distant relatives. A death kind of causes a ripple effect in a clan.
Early on in Uggor culture, the selection of a Chief was special to the family they belonged to. Families centering around fighting often had competitions of strength to decide who was fit to lead the family. Other families saw who could grow the best crops, or work the hardest. which ever way they did it, it was almost always related to the nature of the family. But now as things get more complicated, powerful warriors or skilled farmers aren't making good leaders. Now many clans/families have embraced the idea of having a vote in which the wisest of their family/clan chose the next Chief after the old one has died. However, in more isolated parts of the country like the colonies smaller families continue to have contests to see who shall lead their family.
On a side note, I'm not that well educated in the history of Moti. They've been rather quiet in pretty much every update, keeping to themselves. they do control the primary source of tin in the south which gives them a good source of income. That, and they are the only Uggor country to have conquered another Uggor country (Moti took over Lumada). But even that wasn't mentioned in any update. North King had to explain what happened after he had posted the update.
Or the Duroc scripts
Anyway, yes, I will be joining as Moti.
Coughs, I would say that we were equal but they were bigger. NK can clear this all up. Oh and Ninja you maybe having more than one neighbour this update.