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[RD] War in Gaza: News Thread
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The same god they invented. No case of self interest there at all.
Not if you understand the difference between true religion and false religion...
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Israel-Gaza briefings: No let-up for Gazans while world focused on Iran attack
While the media's glare in the Middle East this past week was diverted to Iran's dramatic missile and drone attack on Israel, there has been no let-up in fighting in Gaza.Dozens of Palestinians were killed daily - including many children, according to figures from the Hamas-run health ministry. It now says Israel has killed more than 34,000 people in Gaza since the start of the war.
As Israel's forces continue with their efforts to destroy Hamas, they have conducted small-scale, often deadly operations, from the top to the bottom of the territory over the past week.
On Tuesday, in the middle of Gaza, relatives clutching limp and bloodstained bodies of small boys and girls rushed from al-Maghazi refugee camp to al-Aqsa Martyrs' hospital in nearby Deir al-Balah.
Medics at the hospital said that at least 12 people were killed and some 30 injured by shelling in al-Maghazi.
"They were playing in the street. Why were they struck? They weren't in any position close to Israeli forces," one man told the BBC. Another added: "They were just playing. They were in the market with people coming and going normally."
Israel's military has not commented on what happened there, but this week in Gaza the central refugee camps have been its main focus. It said it was "eliminating terrorists and destroying terrorist infrastructure" such as attack tunnels and military compounds used by armed Hamas fighters in "precise" action.
After Israeli forces were reported to have left another camp, Nuseirat, late on Wednesday, residents began trickling back to inspect the damage to their homes.
"We have no place to stay, 90% of the houses are destroyed," one father told us despairingly as he picked his way through the new piles of rubble.
In the very north of Gaza, Israel's tanks rolled back into Beit Hanoun, which troops had left weeks earlier. Israel said it was targeting Hamas and Islamic Jihad operatives based at schools where displaced families were living. Locals talked of men being stripped and detained.
Footage has also emerged of Israeli strikes in parts of Gaza City, in the north, and Rafah, on the border with Egypt, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians live in tents after fleeing the fighting elsewhere.
Israeli defence analysts say that the military is carrying out targeted operations against Hamas, in line with a switch to lower-intensity fighting that was agreed with the US.
Earlier this month, Israel withdrew most ground forces from Gaza, leaving just one brigade to secure a line that splits the enclave into two parts - north and south.
While it has since been announced that two reservist brigades are being called up, and some soldiers have been deployed across the border, the prevailing opinion is that a planned ground offensive in Rafah is still some way off.
"I don't think anything is imminent," says Prof Chuck Freilich, a former Israeli deputy national security adviser, now based at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv. "I don't think there's the force there for conducting a major operation in Rafah."
Israel has promised to root out remaining Hamas battalions in Rafah - the one Gazan city where it has not yet launched a ground offensive. It believes that some of the remaining 130-plus hostages snatched from southern Israel during the deadly Hamas attacks on 7 October, which also killed more than 1,200 people, are held there.
But Prof Freilich says for "the full-on attack that people were talking about you'd need two things: to move out all the refugees and then to call up some of those reserves".
"Between those, it's at least a couple of weeks. And now there's the [week-long Jewish] Passover holiday."
The US and other allies point out that a large-scale invasion could deepen an already dire humanitarian crisis.
Amid miserable living conditions and the continuous threat to Rafah, many Gazans stuck there long to return home to the north of the territory.
But on Monday, Israel's military renewed warnings for them not to make the journey, a day after witnesses said its forces had opened fire on crowds heading along a main coastal road. killing five people.
The IDF did not comment directly on that incident, but an Israeli military spokesman said afterwards that Palestinians should stay in southern Gaza because the north is a "dangerous combat zone".
"We have dreamt of returning home since we left in the early months of the war," Amr Daoudi told us back in Rafah. "But for now we have put it out of our thoughts."
More than six months of fighting have flattened vast tracts of the north. Israel's restrictions on aid have also left some 300,000 who remained there through the war on the brink of famine, according to the United Nations.
International pressure on Israel in the wake of the killing of seven aid workers from US charity World Central Kitchen on 1 April led to a string of announcements on increasing relief to Gaza, notably opening up the Ashdod commercial port and a new northern crossing.
While aid concerns have been overshadowed, in the past week, by fears of a wider regional war, there have been constant updates on developments - Israeli defence officials declaring the arrival of shipments of flour destined for newly reopening bakeries, for example.
Anecdotal evidence, including social media footage of grilled meat being sold in Jabalia camp for the first time in months, has also circulated, suggesting food is becoming more easily available.
However, aid agencies say that far more needs to be done to reverse critical shortages.
As the UN launched a flash appeal to raise $2.8bn (£2.3bn) in funding, mainly for Gaza, a senior official from its humanitarian office complained of lingering access problems, particularly to reach the north.
"We are dealing with this dance where we do one step forward, two steps backwards; or two steps forward and one step backward," says Andrea de Domenico, who heads the UN humanitarian office for Palestinian territories.
If Israel's response to Iran's recent strikes is now over, drawing a line under the latest round of violence between these two old enemies, the media and foreign players are likely to increase their scrutiny of goings-on in Gaza once again.
Already, we got a hint of this when the UK Foreign Secretary David Cameron came to express solidarity with Israel and try to reduce tensions after the Iranian attacks of 13-14 April.
"The real need is to refocus back on Hamas, back on the hostages, back on getting the aid back in, back on getting a pause in the conflict in Gaza," he said, ahead of meetings with Israeli and Palestinian leaders.
For now, international mediation efforts to secure a new truce have largely stalled.
The main obstacle remains that Israel will discuss a temporary halt to bring home hostages but will not stop fighting until Hamas is eliminated. Hamas says it will not release the hostages without a path to end the war.
For ordinary Gazans struggling just to survive and Israelis desperate to bring home loved ones trapped in captivity, the best hope now could come from a new diplomatic thrust.
Without it there is the threat of a lingering war which carries a huge cost to humanity and constantly risks sparking further destabilising conflict in an already volatile part of the world.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68854896
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IDF attacking aid infrastructure again
Bonyduck Campersang
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After all, you never know, it could be a false flag by the famous Hamas Air Force
EnglishEdward
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Yes, but I wonder how, and by whom?
The photogragh there is interesting with most damage being to the bottom of the water truck.
With no other evidence, an artillery or tank shell or a missile seems to
me to be more likely the cause than an aerial bomb.
Really? According to what source?
EnglishEdward
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Bombs fall downwards (there is this thing called gravity) and the top of the water tanker doesn't seem that damaged.
Once again you follow me with your tiresome tactic of requesting a source.
I suggest you google Isaac Newton.
Once again you follow me with your tiresome tactic of requesting a source.
I suggest you google Isaac Newton.
You have a habit of making things personal when there's no need.
Anyhow, your theory is just that, a theory. There are plenty of ways a vehicle can be hit from the air that result in damage to the bottom of the vehicle. Or maybe that one was blown up by an Israeli tank?
Why does it matter, except to try and find plausible explanations that cast doubt on Israel's involvement?
pigswill
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It doesn't matter if the truck was destroyed by a bomb or an artillery shell, its still destroyed and quibbling won't change that.
Klaus Hergersheimer
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Since all the debris looks swept up, it's hard to tell. Maybe something else (the actual target) fell on it or something.
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15 Palestinians killed across West Bank in Israeli forces raid, settler violence: health officials
Israeli military said a number of militants were killed or arrested
Israeli forces killed 14 Palestinians during a raid in the occupied West Bank on Saturday, while an ambulance driver was killed as he went to pick up wounded from a separate attack by violent Jewish settlers, Palestinian authorities said.An extended raid by Israeli forces began in the early hours of Friday in the Nur Shams refugee camp, near the flashpoint Palestinian city of Tulkarm, and they were still exchanging fire with armed fighters well into Saturday.
Israeli military vehicles amassed and bursts of gunfire were heard, while at least three drones were seen hovering above Nur Shams, an area housing refugees and their descendants from the 1948 war that accompanied the creation of the state of Israel.
The Tulkarm Brigades, which combines forces from numerous Palestinian factions, said its fighters exchanged fire with Israeli forces on Saturday.
The West Bank, a kidney-shaped area about 100 kilometres long and 50 kilometres wide, has been at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since it was seized by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war.
The war in Gaza has overshadowed continuing violence in the territory, including regular army raids on militant groups, rampages by Jewish settlers in Palestinian villages and street attacks by Palestinians on Israelis.
Thousands of Palestinians have been arrested and hundreds killed during regular operations by Israeli army and police since the start of the Gaza war in October.
On Saturday, Palestinian health authorities said at least 14 Palestinians — two of whom were identified by Palestinian sources and officials as a gunman and a 16-year-old boy — were killed during the raid, one of the heaviest casualty totals in the West Bank in months. Another man was killed on Friday.
The Israeli military said a number of militants were killed or arrested during the raid, and at least four soldiers were wounded in exchanges of fire.
In a separate incident, the Palestinian Health Ministry said a 50-year-old ambulance driver was killed by Israeli gunfire near the village of Al-Sawiya, south of the city of Nablus, as he was making his way to transport people injured during the attack on the village.
It was not immediately clear whether he was shot by settlers. There was no immediate comment from the military.
Gaza strikes continue
In Gaza, where fighting has continued despite the withdrawal of most of Israel's combat forces earlier this month from southern areas, the death toll passed 34,000, Palestinian health authorities said on Saturday.Israeli strikes hit the southern city of Rafah, where more than one million Palestinians are sheltering, as well as Nuseirat in central Gaza, where at least five houses were destroyed, and the Jabalia area in the north, health officials and Hamas media said.
In Rafah, a strike hit a house and badly wounded a pregnant woman, but doctors at the Kuwaiti hospital were able to save the baby, medics said.
The Israeli military said troops were carrying out raids in central Gaza, where they were engaged in close-quarter combat with Palestinian fighters.
Overall, Israeli strikes in Gaza killed 37 Palestinians and wounded 68 over the past 24 hours, Palestinian health authorities said.
Rafah is the last Gaza area that Israeli ground forces have not entered in the more than six-month war aimed at eliminating the Islamist Hamas group that rules the enclave, following a Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on Oct. 7, that killed some 1,200 Israelis and foreigners and saw about 250 people taken hostage, according to Israeli tallies.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has faced wide international opposition to the plan to attack Rafah, where the military says the last remaining organized brigades of Hamas are located and where the remaining 133 Israeli hostages are believed to be held.
U.S. to reportedly sanction IDF unit
Meanwhile, members of the Israeli war cabinet slammed a reported U.S. plan to sanction a unit of the Israel Defence Force (IDF) for rights violations in the West Bank.Axios reported on Saturday that U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to hit the Netzah Yehuda battalion, a special unit for ultra-orthodox soldiers, with the sanctions within days for alleged actions committed by them in prior to Oct. 7.
One incident cited by Axios was the January 2022 death of 80-year-old Palestinian American Omar Assad, who was allegedly handcuffed and gagged for refusing to be checked at a checkpoint.
Israeli war cabinet member Benny Gantz called the Netzah Yehuda an "inseparable" part of the IDF and that judgment should be passed by the country's judicial system instead of sanctions.
"I have great appreciation for our American friends, but the decision to impose sanctions on an IDF unit and its soldiers sets a dangerous precedent and conveys the wrong message to our shared enemies during war time," Gantz said on X, formerly known as Twitter. "I intend on acting to have this decision changed."
Netanyahu added that sanctions must not be imposed on the IDF, especially during wartime.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/west-bank-violence-settlers-israel-1.7180203
EnglishEdward
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But I see no clear damage to the top of the long cylindrical water tank.
And it looks as if the front facing was lifted up towards the top.
If it was an air dropped bomb, I suspect it missed the truck and exploded
in or on the ground with the blast therefore being directed upwards.
What I note about the linked article is that it keeps repeating that it was
destroyed by a bomb, but it doesn't provide any evidence e.g. from
witnesses there at the time or of recognisably bomb fragments.
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Ppl aren't always very accurate in their terms. Most ppl will call any tracked armoured vehicle a tank. Plenty of places any 4wd is a 'jeep' etc.
'Bomb ' could easily mean 'an exploding thing'.
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Nearly 200 bodies found in mass grave at hospital in Gaza’s Khan Younis
Palestinian authorities say 180 bodies recovered from Nasser Medical Complex so far as Israel continues attacks on Gaza.
Cloud_Strife
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Disgusting genocidal nation that needs to cease existing in it's current form
Forcible regime change has been undertaken for far less than what Israel is guilty of
Forcible regime change has been undertaken for far less than what Israel is guilty of
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