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I was talking in general, seems to be a trend, either that or people are just rushing games with the knowledge that bugs can be ironed out over a few months and its better to make that quarters targets or whatever

hmm the new form of DRM, release a bugged flawed game, with patching to correct said flaws only available through steam. god I hate DRM

Ah thanks! I had a feeling that it was something like that.

I know YOU own IT and I never said you COULDN'T sell IT, just making THE point that second hand sells don't put money in developers pockets. Also, I'm sketchy on the law of re-selling of goods such as computer games, is it infact, legal? :confused:

ohhh do a pie chart! 27, playing since civ 2 came out. whenever that was

Well the way I see it, the person you sold to, wanted the game. And without you selling it to them they would have gone and bought it. Is that not lose of revenue? oh wells

how is selling your game second hand any different to downloading an illegal copy? the developers don't get any money from the re-sell do they?

bahaha 'duuude those pirates install like super a super virus that changes your ID, duuuddee' 'duuudee the virus seduces your wife and takes custody of your kids duuudde' I have always bought the Civ series, from Civ 2 onwards BUT I always get a 'pirated' version online to avoid headaches, I...

this :)

I have to agree, I hate 1 unit 1 tile. I think in principal is good as the Civ IV AI liked to make HUGGEEE unit stacks, but the map sizes just don't suit 1 unit 1 tile. I think that maybe only stacking of same unit types up to 3 or 4 would be a much better system. But it doesn't matter...