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That is true, I totally forgot about this. Can't believe I did... Makes me want to restart the game to be honest!

I had no idea, but makes sense from the map creation rules point of view.

@AcaMetis YDRC (You don't remember correctly) :D In my current Ragnar save (and Hannibal save before that), I have (had) plains Deer and Fur. Map script is Shuffle though. For Grassland though, I have never seen Deer spawn, apart from on the Borealis map script. Ok... No hijacking of thread...

Not sure if this one is funny, but I was quite surprised. Actually has happened to me on multiple occasions This next one is rather funny though. Great city placement, Ragnar.

Alright... 1. Tokugawa is the best leader in the game. 2. Traits are overrated (fits well with the above) 3. (Wet/Riverside) Wheat, (Riverside) Grassland Sheep, and (Riverside) Hills Pig is preferable to (Wet/Riverside) Corn 4. Plains Cow love

I love Boudica, and I roll her often. I actually love Agg trait, and Tokugawa is my favorite leader (mostly for sentimental reasons) I am not familiar with the game you played, but I think it really shows why CIV4 is such a great game. I also think this shows that even in iso, getting a religion...

Well, the start has my favorite tile of the game (wet Wheat, and riverside as well!) in the Capital, so I have to give this game a try! Here we go! I have to be honest, riverside plains in the middle of desert has often proven to be Jumbos, so I decided to move my Settler down to have a look...

That is some great stuff! I really have a lot to learn, even though I am starting to get warm on Immortal. CIV4 is truly a great game.

That could be. I see that I only have Intel on my laptop here where this is a problem... Weird that it would only affect Shaka's wreath though. Do you think there is any workaround for it?

Not sure who I will target yet... We have Saladin and Sitting Bull to the south, but both are protective.... Ragnar to the east could be a good target, but his land seems rather poor? Mansa is being a bit annoying with his borders and could use some piping down, but I imagine I would want to...

I will try this game. What I did not see anyone mention in the beginning here is that 1SW of Settler (Grass Hill) has Fresh Water, meaning there is river or lake to the West. Have to go play some Jenga with my son, will be back later. Edit: Alright, I did pretty well at Jenga, now lets see...

@konata_LS It is actually going extremely well. 1525AD

@Henrik75 Challenge accepted! Aaaaaand my closest neighbor. Your favorite!

@Fish Man BTW, I just noticed we hijacked @Henrik75 s thread. Sorry Henrik!

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@konata_LS Sorry for not getting back to you on the river. Time zone is a b***h. But seems you managed to get the river fixed. Good. River is a huge headache in the WB. Below you can see the status of my game after 38 turns and city placement suggestions.

@konata_LS I might check it out, yes. Tokugawa just so happens to be my favorite leader. Edit: I will have to fix that river tile though. No way I can look at that the entire game. What happened there? Edit 2: Fixed it!

@Henrik75 Another game for you. I did this on Immortal and did pretty well. Still playing the game, but doing well. Could be fun on Deity, but could also be a bit brutal. Leader is Boudica. I dare you to play on Deity :D

@Henrik75 Henrik, I am enjoying your games. I have some games for you. This is a Wang Kon game I played last year actually on Emperor. I believe the map is a Shuffle type, Standard size, Temperate climate. Medium sea level. No huts, no events, of course. 854 Land Tiles I suggest Immortal...

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