Civ design challenge
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DoktorApplejuce
Champion of Kirkwall
Daylight Saving Time.
In Brazil it's weird, it goes one hour ahead. Normally I'm one hour ahead of something like NY, but now I'm two hours ahead, while normally I'm 4 hours behind London - now I'm just 3 hours.
In Brazil it's weird, it goes one hour ahead. Normally I'm one hour ahead of something like NY, but now I'm two hours ahead, while normally I'm 4 hours behind London - now I'm just 3 hours.
DoktorApplejuce
Champion of Kirkwall
Oh, Daylight Saving. That ends in November, here. I just assumed it was the same for everyone who used it.
Start in October here. Really weird stuff.
Urdnot_Scott
Sultan
1612 - 1858 AD
One of the greatest sources of diversity among humanity is how we choose to govern ourselves. States come in hundreds of different forms and if you get two humans in a room together, chances are you'll have five different opinions on the best way to run a state. From the republic to the absolute monarchy, from the theocracy to the junta, humans love to find new and innovative ways to coexist. As such, some of these government forms are... stranger than others and perhaps the oddest of these forms were a handful of states, though none of them were nominally sovereign so to speak, which arose at the dawn of the European industrial age. These states seemed normal in a variety of ways - they had armies which they used to exert force both internally and externally. They held territory across vast distances and employed a never ending stream of bureaucrats and officials to manage their holdings. The major difference with these states then, was the fact that they weren't states at all. They were corporations.
The East India Company was one of the largest, most powerful and most lucrative of these quasi-state companies. Unlike corporations today, the EIC and her contemporaries went through all the notions of normal statehood. The EIC frequently waged war, it had a territory of almost 5 million square miles from Multan to Malabar and it even levied taxes. The company started in employment under India's nominal suzerains towards the end of the 17th century; the Mughals. The rapidly collapsing empire hired the EIC to collect taxes and, in return, granted trading rights to the corporation. It turned out to be a disastrous move and, now essentially in control of most of India's trade and its taxes, the EIC began to work against the Mughals and started annexing portions of India, taking vast swathes of the subcontinent under official company rule. The portions left over were coerced into treaties with the EIC which gave it favourable trading rights and nominal overlordship of certain principalities, in return for greater autonomy - the famous princely states.
Despite this, the EIC began to face difficulties in the 19th century, facing bankruptcy and bailouts several times before, following rumours that their 'Sepoys' - native soldiers hired to do the company's dirty work - were being given pork and beef fat to grease their rifles, the region exploded. After almost a year of bitter fighting, the company held on to her possessions in India but was officially relinquished of its territory by the British government in 1858 following the government of India act.
Despite this, the EIC has left a legacy undeniable to even its most fervent critics. often acting autonomously of London, the company epitomised the period of European dominance in which a corporation came to control some 5 million square miles and some 285 million people. Careful diplomacy, fabulous wealth and the kind of raw pragmatism only a company could have gotten away with, the EIC is the best example of corporate capitalism getting totally out of control: ruthless, powerful and at times fantastically rich,
I guess greed is good after all.
So there it is - an oddball civ this time, with the obvious focusses being trade, gold, war and diplomacy. Lets see what you can do guys!
Natan35
Mayor of St. Natansburg
You need to write a book, Scott. Oh and GPuzzle, they do it to save electricity. Why Am I telling you that... Anyway
East India Company
UA: A Company of Rulers
Eternal
trade routes provide 
gold and 
local happiness
c5production: production in the sending city) based on resource diversity*. Merchant specialists grant 
production equal to their gold yield, and all luxury resources are automatically improved upon conquering a city.
UB: EIC Factory
Radically different to the factory which it replaces, the EIC factory is unlocked at economics and has nothing in common with the factory. It grants +1 and +5% gold and production per each luxury source worked by the city, and grants the benefits of a railroad connection if the city has a sea connection to the 
capital. Contains two merchant specialist slots, and spawns a source of tea, indigo dye, saltpetre or opium if built in a foreign continent.
UU: Sepoy
Replaces rifleman. Cheaper and weaker(30
) the sepoy has a massive 20% bonus outside of friendly territory which stays after upgrade, making it suited for fighting in foreign continents. Additionally, it start with +1 strength per each city you conquer if built on foreign continents(stays after upgrade as well).
* +2 gold and production in the host city and +1 happiness in the receiving city per each resource that is present in the host city only.
** Opium and Indigo dye provide 5 happiness as opposed to 4. Tea yields 4 
culture, and Saltpeter boost gunpowder unit production by 10% per each copy you own.
Decisons!
Institute the Ryotwari System
Costs: 3 magistrates
Requirements: must have researched economics, must have conquered at least 3 cities.
Rewards: +1 gold from any improved resources yielding +1 gold, +3 culture from custom houses.
Adopt the Tea Clipper
Costs: 1 magistrate,
science equal to the amount required to research navigation.
Requirements: Must have researched navigation, must have at least 3 cargo ships.
Effects: Cargo ships cost 20% more to produce but gain 50% more range.
East India Company
UA: A Company of Rulers
Eternal
trade routes provide gold and local happinessc5production: production in the sending city) based on resource diversity*. Merchant specialists grant production equal to their gold yield, and all luxury resources are automatically improved upon conquering a city.UB: EIC Factory
Radically different to the factory which it replaces, the EIC factory is unlocked at economics and has nothing in common with the factory. It grants +1 and +5%
gold and production per each luxury source worked by the city, and grants the benefits of a railroad connection if the city has a sea connection to the capital. Contains two merchant specialist slots, and spawns a source of tea, indigo dye, saltpetre or opium if built in a foreign continent.UU: Sepoy
Replaces rifleman. Cheaper and weaker(30
) the sepoy has a massive 20% bonus outside of friendly territory which stays after upgrade, making it suited for fighting in foreign continents. Additionally, it start with +1 strength per each city you conquer if built on foreign continents(stays after upgrade as well).* +2
gold and production in the host city and +1 happiness in the receiving city per each resource that is present in the host city only.** Opium and Indigo dye provide 5
happiness as opposed to 4. Tea yields 4 culture, and Saltpeter boost gunpowder unit production by 10% per each copy you own.Decisons!
Institute the Ryotwari System
Costs: 3 magistrates
Requirements: must have researched economics, must have conquered at least 3 cities.
Rewards: +1
gold from any improved resources yielding +1 gold, +3 culture from custom houses.Adopt the Tea Clipper
Costs: 1 magistrate,
science equal to the amount required to research navigation.Requirements: Must have researched navigation, must have at least 3 cargo ships.
Effects: Cargo ships cost 20% more to produce but gain 50% more range.
Uighur_Caesar
Comandante en Jefe
East India Company
Leader: Robert Clive
UA: Company Rule: GainGreat Merchant points from worked luxury resources and conquering cities. During peace treaties, generate half of the
UU: Sepoy: Replaces the Rifleman. Can be instantly recruited in conquered cities at the cost of 1Citizen. When recruited in this manner, the Sepoy has a 20%
UGP: Zamindar: Cannot conduct trade missions unlike the Great Merchant it replaces. The Zamindar can be expended in conquered cities to instantly build a courthouse and permanently increase their revenue.**
*If either of these values are negative, receive half of their absolute value instead.
**+10%
I really like how this design came out. It's a very aggressive civ that can make a lot of money through war. The first half of the UA will help you generate a lot of Zamindars (Indian tax collectors) that you can use to pacify your conquests and make them more valuable. The second half of the UA is an Opium War reference since I wanted to include the things the EIC did outside of India too. The Sepoy can be built very quickly and is especially effective in carrying on your conquests on foreign land.
poom3619
Ping Pang Poom!
@Natan, Sepoy is India Split's Maratha's UU made by Pouakai.
Natan35
Mayor of St. Natansburg
Yeah. But that's a problem on their side. It does not belong to the renaissance, and was hardly used by the actual maratha army.
(Actual!)
I'll rename it anyways.
(Actual!)
I'll rename it anyways.
Howard Tafty
Minister-Chairman
Well I plan on making the best of this although the East India Company wasnt as special as most people exactly think (there was the BSAC, DEIA, FEIA, among others) but humbaugh this doesnt matter:
East India Company
Charles Cornwallis
Cornwallis Code
Upon completing construction of a Courthouse it decreases the amount of
Sepoy
Slightly cheaper than the Rifleman it replaces the Sepoy gains an additional +5 EXP in conquered Cities for every Building original to it.
Lodge
Gain an additional +2
The East India Company
UA: Deo Ducente, Nil Nocet:
UB: Company's Factory: Factory replacement, available earlier (at Navigation rather than Industrialization). Instead of +4
UU: Sepoy: Musketman replacement. If aExperience, as well as gaining a
City-State territory.
I think I'm done!
Scapegrace
Obvious Spambot
The East India Company (Cornwallis)
Start Bias: Plains
Capital: Calcutta
UA: John Company
Gain +1 Gold and +1% Military Unit Production in all Cities for each Technology you are ahead. Upon upgrading a Military Unit, generate Science equal to 50% of the Gold spent
UU: Corps of Guides (replaces Lancer)
Does not require Horses, but is still a Mounted Unit. Starts with Survivalism I, Amphibious, and Woodsman, as well as the unique promotion "Frontier Force", which grants a Combat Bonus that increases the further away the unit is from a City (+5% per tile from the closest City, max. at +50%). More expensive than the Lancer it replaces. Upgrades to Cavalry.
UB: Writers' Quarters (replaces Bank)
Unlike the Bank it replaces, the Writers' Quarters is unlocked at Civil Service. In addition to the standard Bank bonuses, it grants a +33% Production Bonus to Buildings or Wonders that generate Science, and itself grants a +15% Science bonus, in the City in which it is built. Requires a Market.
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Gold, hammers, and science. Because of course. =]
Also, I should mention that the writers mentioned above are a name given to the small army of junior clerks who used the Company as training for later positions of power, both within and without its ranks. No Great Writers here. =]
Start Bias: Plains
Capital:
CalcuttaUA: John Company
Gain +1
Gold and +1% Military Unit Production in all Cities for each Technology you are ahead. Upon upgrading a Military Unit, generate Science equal to 50% of the Gold spentUU: Corps of Guides (replaces Lancer)
Does not require Horses, but is still a Mounted Unit. Starts with Survivalism I, Amphibious, and Woodsman, as well as the unique promotion "Frontier Force", which grants a
Combat Bonus that increases the further away the unit is from a City (+5% per tile from the closest City, max. at +50%). More expensive than the Lancer it replaces. Upgrades to Cavalry.UB: Writers' Quarters (replaces Bank)
Unlike the Bank it replaces, the Writers' Quarters is unlocked at Civil Service. In addition to the standard Bank bonuses, it grants a +33%
Production Bonus to Buildings or Wonders that generate Science, and itself grants a +15% Science bonus, in the City in which it is built. Requires a Market.---
Gold, hammers, and science. Because of course. =]
Also, I should mention that the writers mentioned above are a name given to the small army of junior clerks who used the Company as training for later positions of power, both within and without its ranks. No Great Writers here. =]
Hoop Thrower
Cyberbolivarian Inkarri
The East India Trading Company (Richard Wellesley)
UA: Trade Monopoly: Cannot Gain Settlers. Gain 5 Influence per turn from City States you can demand tribute from. Allied City States may gift civilian units over time and you gain their Gold Revenue from Trade Routes sent there.
UU: Sowar. Replaces Lancer. Twice as effective at intimidating city states. Generates Gold from Trade Routes passing through the tile where the Sowar is located.
UB: Post Office. Replaces Caravansary. Aside from regular Caravansary Benefits, it generates an extra 2 Gold and Influence from Trade Routes directed at City States.
UA: Trade Monopoly: Cannot Gain Settlers. Gain 5 Influence per turn from City States you can demand tribute from. Allied City States may gift civilian units over time and you gain their Gold Revenue from Trade Routes sent there.
UU: Sowar. Replaces Lancer. Twice as effective at intimidating city states. Generates Gold from Trade Routes passing through the tile where the Sowar is located.
UB: Post Office. Replaces Caravansary. Aside from regular Caravansary Benefits, it generates an extra 2 Gold and Influence from Trade Routes directed at City States.
Timewalker102
Prime Minister
Joined the forum just because I love designing up new civs, but suck at modding.
My version of the East India Company isn't as militaristic as I wanted it to be, because I really wanted a Cargo Ship upgrade unique unit and I don't like civilisations with more than one unique unit.
Also, the Brig might be difficult to mod, but I'm not sure.
The East India Company, as led by John Watts
Unique Ability: Deus Indicat
Each additional copy of a luxury resource you control grants you +0.5 happiness
Unique Unit: Brig
The Unique Frigate of the East Indian civilisation. Replaces the Galleass and the Cargo Ship. Production costof 6, up from 5. May establish sea trade routes unlike the Frigate. May be built even when there isn't a free trade route slot available, but cannot establish trade routes without one available. May only be based in coastal cities.
Unique Building: East India House
The Unique East India Company of the East India Company (lol). Does not require a Market in all cities. +2 Gold
City Names
Calcutta
Bantam
Surat
Madras
Bombay
Hirado
My version of the East India Company isn't as militaristic as I wanted it to be, because I really wanted a Cargo Ship upgrade unique unit and I don't like civilisations with more than one unique unit.
Also, the Brig might be difficult to mod, but I'm not sure.
Timewalker102
Prime Minister
Has this been abandoned? I haven't seen any posts for a few days.
Urdnot_Scott
Sultan
no im just really busy hang tight guise
