Single Player bugs and crashes - After the 24th of February 2014

stachnie · Apr 17, 2014

C2C v. 34 (release). Huayna Capac asked to be my vassal and I agreed. Soon after that his neighbour, Ghenghis Khan (who never liked me) asked me to do the same. WTF? When I looked at the score I noticed that everyone has a happy face. After I checked Tokugawa it turned out that he was "worried about rivals being vassals" and I got +1236 to his attitude... and to attitude to everyone else but HC :crazyeye:

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Athmos · Apr 17, 2014

stachnie said:
C2C v. 34 (release). Huayna Capac asked to be my vassal and I agreed. Soon after that his neighbour, Ghenghis Khan (who never liked me) asked me to do the same. WTF? When I looked at the score I noticed that everyone has a happy face. After I checked Tokugawa it turned out that he was "worried about rivals being vassals" and I got +1236 to his attitude... and to attitude to everyone else but HC

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looks like an overflow error. This mod really messes up the memory. Never saw such bugs outside of properties yet (BTW, flammability is now affected too, only crime seems to behave in a coherent way)

Yudishtira · Apr 17, 2014

I think when you change your BUG options, the game thinks your "assets and/or DLL" have changed, and asks you to do a recalc. That's wrong, right? :crazyeye:

Might explain all those times you get asked to recalc when you haven't changed anything.

Thunderbrd · Apr 17, 2014

Athmos said:
looks like an overflow error. This mod really messes up the memory. Never saw such bugs outside of properties yet (BTW, flammability is now affected too, only crime seems to behave in a coherent way)

There are some overflow issues but I don't think this is an example of one... Not sure what it is - probably in the xml somewhere. It's not a likely place for an overflow to happen though.

Overflows are simply where an Integer value exceeds a couple million. Simple. A number cannot get too big without having to reprogram things to accommodate.

Furthermore, Property values shouldn't be overflowing so easily now with the trade portion that was causing the worst of it being disabled now. If they still are there's more to address. Flammability? How the? How does that ever exceed 2mill?

Yudishtira said:
I think when you change your BUG options, the game thinks your "assets and/or DLL" have changed, and asks you to do a recalc. That's wrong, right?

Might explain all those times you get asked to recalc when you haven't changed anything.

Possibly... it's hard to say. Koshling's triggers in the code LOOK right but I think some things Alberts and n47 did might've altered how the code really knows that it's changed or not. A cache deletion may cause it to come up too. Honestly, we're stuck with this issue until I understand data issues like these much deeper (who knows when that'll be but probably at some point I will) or Koshling takes a look at it.

Dancing Hoskuld · Apr 17, 2014

Yudishtira said:
I think when you change your BUG options, the game thinks your "assets and/or DLL" have changed, and asks you to do a recalc. That's wrong, right?

Might explain all those times you get asked to recalc when you haven't changed anything.

It may be that changing some options might turn on/off something, same with changing options in WorldBuilder. It is difficult to track each possible change so it is safer to cause a recalc if they are used in a game than not.

strategyonly · Apr 17, 2014

Something is wrong someplace now??? I just wanted to see if a NEW game would make any difference with TB's changes.

I have "our" cultures set this way:

<bPlayable>0</bPlayable>
<bAIPlayable>0</bAIPlayable>

which is what Hydro wanted, BUT, the loading IS reading it, whereas it should NOT???

Thunderbrd · Apr 17, 2014

Maybe there's a bug in AIplayable? Those civs have been on for some time now... aren't they in a module that's turned off???

strategyonly · Apr 18, 2014

@ DH or TB

I cant remember which used to cause this problem, anybody remember how to fix this graphic problem????? see pic for error

climat · Apr 18, 2014

Two Andean Workers?

strategyonly · Apr 18, 2014

Thunderbrd said:
Maybe there's a bug in AIplayable? Those civs have been on for some time now... aren't they in a module that's turned off???

My bad, i forgot i changed them back to "playable", sorry :blush:

Dancing Hoskuld · Apr 18, 2014

climat said:
Two Andean Workers?

Yes. It was the only way I could do it. You get two for building the Nazca Lines and two for building Machu Picchu.

climat · Apr 18, 2014

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Yes. It was the only way I could do it. You get two for building the Nazca Lines and two for building Machu Picchu.

It may be good to change the name of Nazca Line one to Nazca Worker or something like that.

Talin2009 · Apr 18, 2014

How long does it take now game to generate gigantic perfect world map?

2 Months ago it took 20-30 mins to generate immense size map. Yesterday after clean update i spent 1 hour waiting to generate, closed application, tried to generate another, waited 3 hours before going to sleep and turning off comp.

Today at work im already waiting 1+ hour to generate map. Im wondering if there is some known bug that prevents generating maps or something else?

strategyonly · Apr 18, 2014

Talin2009 said:
How long does it take now game to generate gigantic perfect world map?

2 Months ago it took 20-30 mins to generate immense size map. Yesterday after clean update i spent 1 hour waiting to generate, closed application, tried to generate another, waited 3 hours before going to sleep and turning off comp.

Today at work im already waiting 1+ hour to generate map. Im wondering if there is some known bug that prevents generating maps or something else?

I believe there is something horribly wrong with the dll.

strategyonly · Apr 18, 2014

Schema's are still really messed up and mainly incorrect?????????

Spoiler :

Pls look at attached there are over 1000 entries that are wrong. . . ????????

masaykh · Apr 18, 2014

at start of new game i see blackened Andean worker, pedia say it need to have poultry and nasca lines but i dont know such things at 50 000 bc ...

and why we got 2 different andean workers?

strategyonly · Apr 18, 2014

masaykh said:
at start of new game i see blackened Andean worker, pedia say it need to have poultry and nasca lines but i dont know such things at 50 000 bc ...

and why we got 2 different andean workers?

Look ABOVE at post 829 and below.

Stormwind · Apr 18, 2014

Talin2009 said:
How long does it take now game to generate gigantic perfect world map?

2 Months ago it took 20-30 mins to generate immense size map. Yesterday after clean update i spent 1 hour waiting to generate, closed application, tried to generate another, waited 3 hours before going to sleep and turning off comp.

Today at work im already waiting 1+ hour to generate map. Im wondering if there is some known bug that prevents generating maps or something else?

A test with PerfectWorld 2f gave me 4-5 mins for huge, 5-6 mins for giant and about 8 mins for gigantic. That is from pressing launch to the first turn. My processor is a AMD Phenom II 550 3.1Ghz.

Dancing Hoskuld · Apr 18, 2014

climat said:
It may be good to change the name of Nazca Line one to Nazca Worker or something like that.

We did not have that culture in when I did it. However since we have Rapa Nui worker I don't see why I should not change them.

Talin2009 · Apr 18, 2014

Just finished.
Gigantic perfect world2f map took 4.5 hours to generate.
Core i5 processor ....

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