Thorvald of Lym
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There was the Master...Scarlet_King said:
Fallout IOT: Back in the USSR
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VGL
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Why can't i have a carbon copy of america in Yugoslavia? You allowed a religious nation in Russia when it must be a communist nation.
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I mean, if you know nothing about the history of the Orthodox Church under the Soviet Union, yeah.
Because as we all know, the Russian Orthodox Church simply stopped existing in 1923 and emerged ex nihilo in 1991.
Hush you.
Because as we all know, the Russian Orthodox Church simply stopped existing in 1923 and emerged ex nihilo in 1991.
Hush you.
It was Stalin who reestablished the position of Patriarch, abolished by the Tsars, though for religious support in WW2. The Soviets persecuted the ROC, yes. But given it has survived and remains fairly strong in modern Russia means they didn't kill it.
VGL
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Then communism collapsed in Yugoslavia so should be able to build my american carbon copy
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To be fair, Russia or Europe for that matter has not been touched by the Fallout lore that much, leaving a blank state for the players. However, seeing that there was a nuclear war between the USA and China, it is implied that communism, even if just an ideology with little comparison to OTL communism as it was affected by the technological advancements of the Fallout Universe, was stronger than it was in our timeline. While I can understand a post - apocalyptic republic in Yugoslavia, a carbon copy of the USA would propably be taking it too far.
Robert Can't
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Not trying to be offensive or anything but why do you even want that? It doesn't really fit with the tone or setting or anything. It basically looks like some form of troll nation worthy of AA
VGL
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Cause i thought of it and i thought it was a good idea.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
The problem is more that you seem to be interested in carbon copying a nation into an unsuited context, which is almost universally considered poor form because it's lazy and uncreative and makes little sense to boot. Even saying that you want to be a republic in Yugoslavia is fine, but you directly said you're trying to carbon copy the US.
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Can only conclude Kurdistan is carbon copy of Sassynids.
*points to avatar*
Terran Empress
Hornet
Yeah this is pretty much my sentiment.
I love the idea of a republican/monarchist/federal/whatever country, but making it a carbon copy of something else, especially the US makes it seem out of place and lazy.
I suggest doing what you want, but keeping it in line with the rest the history, and making it fit in with the rest of the world.
an exact carbon copy of the United State's government is illogical in post nuclear war Yugoslavia because 1, the government of the US wouldn't have been saved in a communist country, and 2 the US government is very complex and it wouldn't be likely to be recreated in an exact form by someone trying to make a new form of government.
so while I really want you to join VGL, I don't think your nation is very realistic, and I would like a little more work be put into it.
I mean even something silly is acceptable in the Fallout universe, but this just doesn't seem like it would have happened in this universe.
VGL
Deity
What i meant from carbon copy was that it was very similar but however, has it's difference. It has a more socialist and liberal constitution than US and the people are much more radical. They are 3 major parties instead of 2 and the senate is appointed by the states just like the old america. It's stability and economy is much worse and last but not least, the federal government has much more power. Here is the key difference. Yugoslavian people say it's different while Americans say that it's very much the same. So can i be in?
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Kinda! in some states, they are appointed by the state legislator while some are appointed by the governor. It's based on the constitution of the state.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
If you had posted this, instead of saying "carbon copy of USA", you would have been saved from a lot of trouble.
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so, can i post my nation?
christos200
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Spoiler :
Six men. Three women. One child.
Six men. Three women. One child.
Six men. Three women. One child.
All had danced at the end of the rope.
Melor Alkaev danced the longest. Hanging people is a science, and like a science, it can be used as punishment. The child's neck mercifully snapped quickly. It was unfortunate, but the law says the sins of the father are the sins of the son when it comes to corruption, and so, Viktor Alkaev, Head of the Volkhov PSPA, and his son hanged. Viktor's neck, as well as his wife (conspirator), sister-in-law (conspirator), and mistress (probable conspirator) all snapped quickly as well.
Two agents of the PSPA had danced as well. The science behind the hanging had broken down unfortunately, and so they danced. Not as long as Melor. Melor danced for a good forty-five minutes. Let the Battery Jesus deal with him in the Next.
The last man to die had been the mayor of Volkhov. Not for conspiracy, but for sheer incompetence.
That year, the tax flowed.
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Spoiler Petrograd Trade Routes :
Trade is of great important to the Petrograd Republic. The Merchants Guild is a pseudo-state organization which is responsible for the recruitment and education of new merchants who understand the laws of Petrograd as well as the laws of countries the merchants operate in. The Guild serves other purposes including collecting dues from members, providing insurances, opening trade depots, and providing security and rest stops along the trade routes.
However, Russia is a dark place. Much of the world has yet to recover, and brigands and bandits and monsters roam the "white" zones. These land routes are represented with dotted lines, as are other routes which operate in war zones.
Petrograd's major sea route is with Helsinki, represented with a dashed line.
The Petrograd-Arkhangelsk represents the major route with the Russian Tsardom. Arkhangelsk is targeted for several reasons, including the fact that Murmansk city proper is, at the moment, within a "black" zone.
There are two routes running south and southeast to Moscow and Minsk. These routes are considered "natural" routes, in the sense that were going to happen regardless thanks to the proximity of those two countries to Petrograd.
The Merchants Guild is considering opening talks with the ruling governments in Minsk and Moscow to allow the Guild to purchase property in both cities for taverns, warehouses, small factories, and inns.
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Spoiler OOC: Theoretical Trade Routes :
