Why is Egypt considered low tier? I do great with them.About to win....
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The same is true of Hunnic mounted archers (note I misspoke in in my previous post). The map and game pace need to be right for this strategy to work.
Princeofnigeria
The illustrious
I don't agree with that comparison. First of all the hunnic horse archer has a TON of bonuses and starts closer to the transferrable promotion. Plus the horse archer accompanies a second anti city unit so that it is a complimentary support unit. The war chariot does not have a unit that allows it to capitalize on its less pronounced advantages so it isn't very effective.
War Chariots are extremely powerful if you're trying for a super-fast Domination victory. It's true that they might not be great if you're aiming to play a longer and/or more peaceful game. But they're strong enough in their window to enable otherwise-impossible strategies. I'd say that them having that sort of special value is a more important factor to emphasize than the fact that they're kind of mediocre in other types of games.
They start with the accuracy promotion. AFAIK that is their only bonus. The WC has the negative bonus that it expends all its motion points on entering rough terrain.
That is a a characteristic of the civ, not the unit. Obviously the Huns are the greater war mongers. and the HA is better than the WC. I said they were analogous, not the same. Using the same strategy with WCs would be more challenging and the conditions under which it would succeed are narrower. Rough terrain is bad for HAs but it is poison for WCs.
I'll start a trial game as Egypt and see how it goes.
TractorBoy
Prince
As far as War Chariots are concerned, to get the best out of an early rush domination game, I find that playing World Age 5 billion years is the way to go.
Acken
Deity
5 billion map age is easier for every land domination strategy.
Tyrvos
Cu Chulainn
except for the inca and danes, and maybe carthage.
They're good for two specific strategies. The first is the insanely early domination, the second is to pick off a civ closeby you before you meet any other civs. This is highly useful in a lot of cases. Start next to Greece? Bombard him with your Chariots, take Athens and from that point on lay low.
Once the chariots go obsolete, just sell them. By that time, Egypt has no further combat bonuses, so why not make the switch at that point to go from warmongery conqueror to peaceful monument builders? If you monger your wars properly, others won't even know what happened.
Once the chariots go obsolete, just sell them. By that time, Egypt has no further combat bonuses, so why not make the switch at that point to go from warmongery conqueror to peaceful monument builders? If you monger your wars properly, others won't even know what happened.
Tried Great Plains+, small, 8 players, epic, immortal. I suck at domination. I couldn't help myself building HagSo, HangGa, and the Oracle. By turn 180 I have put the kibosh on everyone except Washington who started in the Eastern 30% of the "Great Plains" that is heavily forested. I tried to speed up logisitics by researching bronze working then building a barracks before building the WCs. It still took a long time but they powned without it anyway.
Other civs might be playable as a chariot rush. If you're going to build a barracks then Russia makes sense because of the krepost bonus. Moreover your chariots will (if they survive) ultimately become cossacks with logistics.
Syailendra
Prince
don't put epic on small map. It will tip the balance and thus make the trial not a valid one. Put epic huge, or at least put standard time on small.
I'll put whatever settings I like. You have no authority over me.
Dave Hartwick
Prince
If that's how you're going to be, I'm going to start spelling capital with an O and pronouncing deity with a long E in the first syllable.
Best reply ever. I hate it when people try to enforce what settings should be used as any kind of standard.
Xiao Xiong
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Having range units that upgrade to melee units, or vice versa, is just plain bad game design.
If it really has to be done, the promotions shoudl convert. If you have range, and you upgrade to melee, you should get a melee promotion.
It makes some UU's really lame.
If it really has to be done, the promotions shoudl convert. If you have range, and you upgrade to melee, you should get a melee promotion.
It makes some UU's really lame.
Syailendra
Prince
what you put at a public forum is not a subject of private matter anymore. That means i can give any comment as long as the moderator sees fit. If by any chance you don't like people to complain about your playing style, DON'T POST IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM!
Acken
Deity
As long as people compare stuff on comparable settings. Otherwise you're having a meaningless conversation.
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