Gaius Octavius
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Abraham Lincoln was the ruler of the Union during the American Civil War, popularly called The North in the United States today. He was elected President in 1860 but before he could take office, several Southern states seceded from America, forming their own nation, called the Confederate States of America. The map below illustrates this. Blue states represent the North, red states are the South.
It is completely disrespectful to Southerners and totally anti-historical to consider Lincoln the ruler of America. At best, he ruled over maybe half of the country, and was by no means the recognized leader of the conquered Southern states, and therefore all of America. You cannot consider a man the leader of a whole nation when he only held sway over maybe half of it at a given time. This is further complicated by the fact that many in the North also opposed Lincoln at various intervals, including a group of ardent anti-slavery Northerners who themselves threatened to secede.
His reelection in 1864 is historically a singular event, in that while Lincoln was reelected he was chosen only by those states which remained in the Union. Half of the country did not even cast votes, making the outcome slippery from a legal perspective, at best.
So now, the question Firaxis should ask itself is:
What could we do when we make such an awful ridiculous fallacy that will make laugh the whole world and we realize it so close to the game release?
There are only three choices:
It is completely disrespectful to Southerners and totally anti-historical to consider Lincoln the ruler of America. At best, he ruled over maybe half of the country, and was by no means the recognized leader of the conquered Southern states, and therefore all of America. You cannot consider a man the leader of a whole nation when he only held sway over maybe half of it at a given time. This is further complicated by the fact that many in the North also opposed Lincoln at various intervals, including a group of ardent anti-slavery Northerners who themselves threatened to secede.
His reelection in 1864 is historically a singular event, in that while Lincoln was reelected he was chosen only by those states which remained in the Union. Half of the country did not even cast votes, making the outcome slippery from a legal perspective, at best.
So now, the question Firaxis should ask itself is:
What could we do when we make such an awful ridiculous fallacy that will make laugh the whole world and we realize it so close to the game release?
There are only three choices:
- Change the name of the leader (Jefferson Davis, Andrew Johnson or even George W. Bush being a more obvious representative of the country as a whole)
- Change the name of the civ (probably Union or Damn Yankees).
- Remove the whole civ or keep it strictly for a scenario.
Spoiler :
Okay, guys, this is obviously a joke. (No disrespect to Marla Singer intended.) I am actually quite pleased Lincoln has returned despite controversy by some less-enthusiastic members. Let's use this thread to discuss him and his traits--I'm thinking that with Philosophical, he might turn out to be a reasonable SE leader. Charismatic also allows for early expansion and warring, meaning America could easily take the lead once it gets a solid base. What say you?