Favorite Civs?

Nicasen · Jul 22, 2013

i kimchi u said:
Korea is still my favorite. Its UA+Rationalism (with some wonders like GL, Porcelain, Hanging Gardens, Pisa) gives crazy amount of scientific boosts. Not to mention the AI's change -- compared to G&K, the AIs are much likely to be friendly, thus making the RA much easier in BNW.

Also I feel like Freedom policies are made just for Korea -- all these specialist & great tile benefits.

Spoiler :

My first Deity victory with Korea

Korea has my vote too, I liked them a lot in G&K but in BNW they've gotten even better. Their UA works very well with the historical landmarks resolution from the world congress, especially with the freedom tenet that buffs great tiles (although it does suck you can't get 20+ science academies now). The science penalty for wide empires also makes tall science setups more effective which Korea was already killer at.

black8 · Jul 22, 2013

Persia,Rome,Greece,Egypt,Babylon is also great for science victory.for domination i usually go with Rome or Songhai.I tried to play today as Assyria,it works pretty well so far

rondiggity · Jul 22, 2013

Poland, Shoshone, and Indonesia are my faves of the new ones. From G&K I liked Korea, Celts, and old France (haven't played with new France yet). Overall, I'd say Poland.

digrosz · Jul 22, 2013

Inca. The Inca always have done it for me, in GnK, and in BnW as well. The terrace farm is beast and the UA is incredible for seiging and other warfare. You can have a wide but still tall empire. And conquer.
Out of all the BNW civs, I like Indonesia a lot... Idk, I have always had this love for gimmicky civs.

Abraxis · Jul 22, 2013

rondiggity said:
Poland, Shoshone, and Indonesia are my faves of the new ones. From G&K I liked Korea, Celts, and old France (haven't played with new France yet). Overall, I'd say Poland.

Do Poland's stables make a noticeable difference? I want to like them, and even started a game with them, but the extra policies, while useful, no doubt, seem a bit boring. And their stables are only +1 gold. Which isn't really that much when compared to civs that don't have to pay for roads, or even one's who's UBs don't have any maintenance.

Is their start bias really that strongly placed in a sea of horses? I think that's the only thing that would push them from meh to excellent for me, and it would mainly be for the production rather than that extra bit of gold.

Polycrates · Jul 22, 2013

Abraxis said:
Do Poland's stables make a noticeable difference? I want to like them, and even started a game with them, but the extra policies, while useful, no doubt, seem a bit boring. And their stables are only +1 gold. Which isn't really that much when compared to civs that don't have to pay for roads, or even one's who's UBs don't have any maintenance.

Is their start bias really that strongly placed in a sea of horses? I think that's the only thing that would push them from meh to excellent for me, and it would mainly be for the production rather than that extra bit of gold.

The ducal stables cost less hammers, have no maintenance, and give +1 gold and +1 production per pasture. Which makes them a fantastic little building for the price anyway.

Plus they give faster production of horse units AND +15xp for horse units.

A seriously nice building all round.

powmod · Jul 22, 2013

I don't get all the craze for Poland. I mean, their UA will give you what, 3 policies before your average game is over? While that's nice, for me, it pales in comparison with UA like the Zulu's or Shoshone's, that give you tangible advantages regardless of the game's length.

DeutschDachs · Jul 22, 2013

powmod said:
I don't get all the craze for Poland. I mean, their UA will give you what, 3 policies before your average game is over? While that's nice, for me, it pales in comparison with UA like the Zulu's or Shoshone's, that give you tangible advantages regardless of the game's length.

3 by renaissance. Only way I see that being game over is by domination. Most they can get is 7 i believe... More than a full tree. Quite handy and early game you finish your first tree that much fasterbeca use it doesn't increase sp cost

cairnsy44 · Jul 22, 2013

Really enjoyed my games as Shoshone and Poland. Getting the feel for Portugal right now. New France will be next. I really loved the old France, but I do enjoy versatile civs and I think these 3 are just that.

Pythakoreas · Jul 22, 2013

merciorum said:
persia, byzantium, india, inca, venice, brazil, france (the new one). In no particular order.

Can you tell my preferred victory type?

persia is probably my very favourite. Maybe india or byzantium.

time!!!! Time victory must be what you're looking for!!!!

Pythakoreas · Jul 22, 2013

i kimchi u said:
Korea is still my favorite. Its UA+Rationalism (with some wonders like GL, Porcelain, Hanging Gardens, Pisa) gives crazy amount of scientific boosts. Not to mention the AI's change -- compared to G&K, the AIs are much likely to be friendly, thus making the RA much easier in BNW.

Also I feel like Freedom policies are made just for Korea -- all these specialist & great tile benefits.

Spoiler :

My first Deity victory with Korea

Korea gets my vote too. Always trying to get Hanging Gardens, Pisa and Freedom as well. UA+Secularism+NC=2+2+50%=6 beakers/specialist.

oldbear38 · Jul 22, 2013

Shoshone are great, but it seems that science and production suffer in relation to other Civs. For war I play America, face it people we invented modern warfare during the civil war. Rome needs buffing- construction and road building in particular in order to be historically accurate.

Bagi · Jul 22, 2013

Couldn't pick a single one, so I picked my favorite for each expansion.

Classic: Aztec, love growing huge cities and love hunting barbarians with jaguars. Montezuma is still the best leader figure in the game.

G&K: Sweden, if I need to warmonger I prefer to do it in the lategame which is where Sweden excels. Diplomatic games with a focus on making friends from AIs instead of just buying all city-states (Alex-style) is infinitely more interesting to me.

BNW: Indonesia, an amazing faith/trade civ on a water map. The candi + trade route combination is a really clever mechanic and being able to expand and grow with less happiness concerns is always great.

Bubbling under are Siam, Byzantium and Songhai. I dislike any civs that focus 100% on warfare like Japan or Denmark.

Arachnofiend · Jul 23, 2013

powmod said:
I don't get all the craze for Poland. I mean, their UA will give you what, 3 policies before your average game is over? While that's nice, for me, it pales in comparison with UA like the Zulu's or Shoshone's, that give you tangible advantages regardless of the game's length.

So opening Rationalism the moment you enter the Renaissance regardless of how you timed your policies doesn't appeal to you at all?

GKShaman · Jul 23, 2013

For Tall 3-5 30 + cities - India Happiness is insanely high after turn 200 or so.

For Mid Size 5-8 20-30 pop cities - Spain (Early gold bonus makes for FUN starts), India (happiness bonuses).

For Domination: Huns! lol too funny how scary they are in the first 50-100 turns with that battering ram.
Austria - more late game ish domination. "Oh hey your in a strategic place and/or have uranium/oil/aluminum/coal -> Marry me!"

Abraxis · Jul 23, 2013

Arachnofiend said:
So opening Rationalism the moment you enter the Renaissance regardless of how you timed your policies doesn't appeal to you at all?

Their colour is too Vivid, it clashes with every other civ as they generally have less saturated tones.

It might sound like I'm joking but honestly that's a big consideration for me. Marathon; I'll be staring at that colour for days, Carthage and Shoshone, for example, are really easy on the eyes, very comfortable colour combinations. Poland is like my monitor is just spurting blood all over my face intermittently and I find myself appreciating it less and less as the game goes on.

GKShaman said:
Austria - more late game ish domination. "Oh hey your in a strategic place and/or have uranium/oil/aluminum/coal -> Marry me!"

At least you have to buy them dinner first, unlike slimey Venice

Arachnofiend · Jul 23, 2013

Abraxis said:
Their colour is too Vivid, it clashes with every other civ as they generally have less saturated tones.

It might sound like I'm joking but honestly that's a big consideration for me. Marathon; I'll be staring at that colour for days, Carthage and Shoshone, for example, are really easy on the eyes, very comfortable colour combinations. Poland is like my monitor is just spurting blood all over my face intermittently and I find myself appreciating it less and less as the game goes on.

This is a favorites thread so I can agree with you here, Poland's territory is way ugly. The original post seemed to be discussing strength specifically though and Poland is a very strong civ.

ahawk · Jul 23, 2013

My favorites:

1 - Aztecs: Far and away, they are useful across the board. Culture from war, huge population possibilities, and a starting UU that can scout because of Woodsman promo? Amazing.

2 - Morocco: Everyone wants to trade with you, you get to improve desert well enough that its at least usable, and a solid defensive UU.

3 - Assyria: Royal Libraries help both with war and culture (Great Work slot is a nice boost), Siege Towers are like BNW's version of the Battering Ram, and stealing techs from conquering cities means you can fall further behind than usual in techs and still catch-up quickly.

4 - Korea: Science, science, science. The UA is amazing, and the Hwacha is very good as well. Only the Turtle Boat is a mixed bag, being great on defense but not capable of exploring as well as a caravel.

5 - China: Great Generals that accomplish more, a UB that provides gold in a new world where rivers and coasts no longer yield it, and a UU that is very useful and upgrades into 2-attack gatlings.

Falconiano · Jul 23, 2013

Solidarity is definitely the most game-changing UA to me.
7 free oracles ain't no joke, especially if you also pop the oracle itself.
On my average game I get to modern before winning so the key number of free policies is 5 to me.
That's almost a full tree for free.

Oh and by the time I hit industrial I also run the International Games, which means ANOTHER free policy.

VainoValkea · Jul 23, 2013

Poland for a UA that's good for anything. Sweden for a UA that supports playing nice very well. Maya for a UA that, despite being gimmicky, offers some nice tactical flexibility. Brazil for being a rock-solid culture bomber. India, because I like playing tallish. England because I like navies and extra spy is always good (not to mention the fact that I'm obsessed with English history).

I could come up with more if I wanted...

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