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Old May 01, 2012, 06:13 PM   #241
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I razed a whopping total of 18 cities. 18.
That stands as a testament to how much
I hate respawns, and also to how badly
the AI plants their cities.



DoC still hasn't fixed the horrible scoring criteria.
I once played an Arabia game where I let the barbs and various civs
raze 10 of my cities, and I got a score of 11-14k.

How The World Has Changed:



Chinese Northwestern Europe. In this timeline, England has the nickname of "Port"
and has developed a thriving culture of wenches, bartenders & aspiring smugglers,
in the service of the Chinese. They have been directly governed the longest of any European.
Paris however, has a more recent, and humiliating role, as it stands as a testament that China will not brook any challenge to its hegemony over the world.
Kiel & Frankfurt are freshly occupied, and the High Command is considering ceding the Germans to the Ottomans.
Ireland is a sleepy, quaint island, untouched and unravaged by the going-ons of the outside world.



Chinese Southwestern Europe. Spain & splintered French provinces dot the map,
proclaiming loyalty and service to the world power. Daqin is the only directly
governed Chinese possession in this region, with Spain & the southern French provinces practicing limited autonomy.



The Balkans. On the outskirts of the Balkans, China maintains the once proud
German capital of Wien as a small, border outpost.
The Ottomans, being the second superpower in the world, and allied to China,
are a prosperous empire, but in recent years, are dealing with a Greek revolt.



Russia. Not much to say here other than its status as a loyal, autonomous Chinese province.



Chinese Vancouver & Los Angeles. Being a Bay Area resident, I really have to say
the NorCal region needs a lot of polish. Also, would it hurt to give China a colonizer map here? Look at a picture of a Treasure Ship
(compared to a Portuguese Carrack), and heck, the articles on East Africans with Chinese ancestry,
and tell me that they didn't have more than the means needed if not the will.
Well, anyways, back to the timeline. The two cities are harmonious enclaves of Pan-East Asian local government.
They're seeing an increase in immigration, mostly from English, Turkish & Spanish migrants & families.
Not all is well though, as militant nativist groups are trying to reduce opportunities and restrict immigrants.



Huaxacayac and the rest of Central America features a unique blend of old Mayan,
Chinese & Spanish architechture. It's flanked by two Spanish coastal communities
that export Dyes & Seafood; as well as being popular tourist attractions.
It's also the most valuable trade route in the entire world.
Also, see Chinese Texas & Louisiana.



The American heartland and Canada are 100% Chinese, and are largely known
as the breadbasket and the producers of the Chinese state. During Washington's Rebellion,
the East Coast of America was razed and salted completely by marauding Sino-British cavalry.
To this day, at the start of the 20th Century, not a soul has set foot there and the area has been cordoned off internationally as a nature preserve.
Free Quebec is a large, but sparsely populated subordinate state to the Chinese;
the master does not ask much of it and relations are typically amiable.

China proper, Manchuria, Corea, Taiwan, Ryukyu & Japan are considered home, core territory of China.
The area is remarkably stable and has enjoyed such a measure of prosperity for over a millenia.
In fact, the last recorded crisis and instance of foreign troops touching down on home Chinese territory,
was a brief invasion launched by Khmer forces on southern China; which was repulsed with impunity.

Also, the secrets of the Gyro were stolen from the Greeks, which meant that China could commit
to cementing its friendship with the Turks. After so long, China's quest for the Gyro has come to an end.



THE END.
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:17 PM   #242
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:35 PM   #243
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:38 PM   #244
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:39 PM   #245
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:39 PM   #246
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Thank You Post:

Fresol & iOnlySignIn: For helping me to practice and improve my China strategy. Before them, the only advanced tactics I was doing was just rushing Japan, invading and converting England into a pirate cove, good Economy management with China (don't automate citizens, Fresol!) & running Police State+State Property (vanilla RFC holdovers) but they introduced me to a wealth of tactics that have helped my China game immensely. Founding Catholicism, Squatting India, running RoC instead of PRC for Economy benefits among others. Big thank you and I think it stands as a testament to how great China plays that we can approach from a wealth of different angles towards this multifaceted, complex civilization.

Jusos2108 & morff: For directly helping me solidify my Domination Victory games with advice and teaching me
(as well as showcasing) excellent ways to bolster my position, as well as patience (Build up, and then go all out).

Alexius08 & Tl๖nitte: Watching An Iberian Love Story & The American Dream,
helped me indirectly via observation of their excellent plays.
As well, Tl๖nitte wrote a superb piece of advice concerning Conquest Victories that I learned alot from as well.

All of you Readers: For reading this of course.
If I made you want to do any of these things:

-Play Dawn of Civilization
-Play China (it's practically the Rome of the Far East)
-Eat Gyros
-Watch ponies

Then I consider my story a success.

Leoreth & Rhye: For the mod, of course! Great job, and despite my dissatisfaction with some of Rhye's map choices & etc.
RFC is still a fun game, all in all. And to Leoreth, I have this to say (with an altered Mao Zedong quote):

"He (Rhye) has made a mod that stands the test of time; We have made a mod that transcends time....
You [CFCers] praise us for being Rhyes. You are wrong. We have surpassed Rhye a hundredfold."


That said, go play Dawn of Civilization, everybody!
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:40 PM   #247
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-Play Dawn of Civilization
-Play China (it's practically the Rome of the Far East)
-Eat Gyros
-Watch ponies
Check, check, check, and...



And thank you, Dawn, for this awesomesauce story. I'll have to give China a winning go one of these days.
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:45 PM   #248
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Fresol & iOnlySignIn: For helping me to practice and improve my China strategy. Before them, the only advanced tactics I was doing was just rushing Japan, invading and converting England into a pirate cove, good Economy management with China (don't automate citizens, Fresol!) & running Police State+State Property (vanilla RFC holdovers) but they introduced me to a wealth of tactics that have helped my China game immensely. Founding Catholicism, Squatting India, running RoC instead of PRC for Economy benefits among others. Big thank you and I think it stands as a testament to how great China plays that we can approach from a wealth of different angles towards this multifaceted, complex civilization.
Any player is better than AI China, especially with city placement *cough*, but this AAR really helped me see tactics and strategies that would help an unfamiliar player to this civ, like me, to see how it can be played and actually enjoyed. I guess it's because I play primarily economically, so when the Mongols come.
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Old May 01, 2012, 06:56 PM   #249
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Any player is better than AI China, especially with city placement *cough*, but this AAR really helped me see tactics and strategies that would help an unfamiliar player to this civ, like me, to see how it can be played and actually enjoyed. I guess it's because I play primarily economically, so when the Mongols come.
Well, Fresol, iOnlySignIn & I are all Chinese (I know you are too, but it just seems that you're unused to playing them), so playing comes more naturally to us since we approach with the mindset of maintaining hegemony (this trait carries over for me with other civs; I HAVE to conquer all of Europe as France or all of the Middle East+Eastern Europe as Ottomans) and of course, China's relative superpower status for most of world history. A lot of people have the conception that China's military was overtly defensive/a pushover in nature, and that's a big misconception.
Some cursory research about Han, Tang, & Ming capabilities and tendencies will prove this is really opposite.
Approach China as a war-mongering, imperialistic power (like Rome) and you'll see some real results.

Approach China as if the world is yours.
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Well, Fresol, iOnlySignIn & I are all Chinese (I know you are too, but it just seems that you're unused to playing them), so playing comes more naturally to us since we approach with the mindset of maintaining hegemony (this trait carries over for me with other civs; I HAVE to conquer all of Europe as France or all of the Middle East+Eastern Europe as Ottomans) and of course, China's relative superpower status for most of world history. A lot of people have the conception that China's military was overtly defensive/a pushover in nature, and that's a big misconception.
Some cursory research about Han, Tang, & Ming capabilities and tendencies will prove this is really opposite.
Approach China as a war-mongering, imperialistic power (like Rome) and you'll see some real results.

Approach China as if the world is yours.
Yeap. I avoided China because I didn't know how to play them. I typically play against them in DoC. Japan, Khmer, Indonesia, India, Korea. I'm comfortable with all of them, but just not China itself.

Plus, what on Earth happened to your GPT/deficit?

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^They're fun! You ought to get in touch with it!
If you're really uncomfortable playing big, imperial civs though,
play some Rome or Ottomans beforehand, and apply some of
that with China. China is more of a blend of builder and imperial though,
most of the early game will be building, but before Corea spawns,
you need to ramp up the military and be hungry.

I'm running 70% Culture in the final screenshots also, to meet the Domination threshold.
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Fresol & iOnlySignIn: For helping me to practice and improve my China strategy.
LOL I'm flattered but I honestly think I've learned more about playing China from you than you from me - I never though of rushing Japan, for example. And I still am unable to bring myself to conquer Europe - not while Europe is not laden with Oil.

The Free Market Specialist Economy is just what I do regardless of which civ I play with. The only original contributions to China's strategy I made were the site of Luoyang (which Fresol also came up with), and Pagan Temple => Free Confucian Temple, which Leoreth just invalidated.
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