Will NIST ever fix their tables?

UNIVERSAL PHYSICAL CONSTANTS
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001) inverse Graviton radiance = 4.813596094 x 10^-126 s^3*sr/kg
002) inverse Graviton irradiance = 6.596359502 x 10^-124 s^3/kg
003) radiant volume = 1.977538829 x 10^-115 m*s^2/kg
004) Graviton volume = 1.171649759 x 10^-106 m^3
005) Graviton mass volume = 1.777323264 x 10^-98 m^3/kg
006) electric current volume = 2.439308398 x 10^-96 m^2/A
007) electric charge volume = 7.312862605 x 10^-88 m^3/A*s
008) molar volume = 7.055839769 x 10^-83 m^3/mol
009) inertial moment = 1.578446697 x 10^-79 kg*m^2
010) Graviton fluidity = 1.211564259 x 10^-71 m*s/kg
011) Graviton area = 2.394410115 x 10^-71 m^2
012) inverse Graviton luminous intensity = 2.943407580 x 10^-58 /cd
013) electric moment = 7.839884471 x 10^-55 A*s*m
014) Graviton capacitance = 4.332594055 x 10^-47 A^2*s^4/kg*m^2
015) magnetic moment = 2.350338236 x 10^-46 A*m^2
016) Graviton time = 1.632219516 x 10^-44 s
017) Graviton moment = 3.225749595 x 10^-44 kg*m
018) Graviton inductance = 6.149065698 x 10^-42 kg*m^2/A^2*s^2
019) absorption-emission = 2.475980295 x 10^-36 s/kg
020) Graviton length = 4.893271007 x 10^-36 m
021) Denke constant = 9.670554000 x 10^-36 kg*m^2/s
022) Planck constant = 6.626070150 x 10^-34 kg*m^2/s*rad
023) relative expansion = 2.330292866 x 10^-32 /K
024) electric resistivity = 1.843443520 x 10^-33 kg*m^3/A^2*s^3
025) kinematic viscosity = 1.466965743 x 10^-27 m^2/s
026) inverse Graviton electric current = 1.018751292 x 10^-25 /A
027) Avogadro amount of substance = 1.660539068 x 10^-24 mol
028) Boltzmann constant = 1.380649035 x 10^-23 kg*m^2/s^2*K
029) thermal resistance = 1.182211753 x 10^-21 s^3*K/kg*m^2
030) elementary charge = 1.602176634 x 10^-19 A*s
031) first radiation spectral radiance = 1.191042972 x 10^-16 kg*m^4/s^3*sr
032) Graviton molality = 2.518939378 x 10^-16 mol/kg
033) first radiation = 3.741771852 x 10^-16 2π*kg*m^4/s^3*rad
034) magnetic flux quantum = 2.067833848 x 10^-15 kg*m^2*sr/A*s^2*rad^2
035) specific heat = 2.094362781 x 10^-15 m^2/s^2*K
036) magnetic flux = 4.135667696 x 10^-15 kg*m^2/A*s^2*rad
037) electric constant = 8.854187817 x 10^-12 A^2*s^4/kg*m^3
038) magnetic exposure = 2.430407023 x 10^-11 A*s/kg
039) magnetic pole strength = 4.803204713 x 10^-11 A*m
040) Newtonian constant of gravitation = 6.671281903 x 10^-11 m^3/kg*s^2
041) atomic permittivity = 1.112650056 x 10^-10 4π-A^2*s^4/kg*m^3
042) molar Planck constant = 3.990312710 x 10^-10 kg*m^2/s*mol*rad
043) density of states = 1.687824209 x 10^-9 s^2/kg*m^2
044) inverse Graviton energy = 1.687824209 x 10^-9 s^2/kg*m^2
045) radiant distribution = 3.335640952 x 10^-9 s/m
046) Graviton mass = 6.592215290 x 10^-9 kg
047) magnetic constant = 1.256637061 x 10^-6 kg*m/A^2*s^2
048) electric conductance = 3.874045865 x 10^-5 A^2*s^3*rad/kg*m^2
049) conductance quantum = 7.748091731 x 10^-5 A^2*s^3*rad^2/kg*m^2*sr
050) inverse luminous efficacy = 1.464128843 x 10^-3 kg*m^2/cd*sr*s^3
051) Sommerfeld fine-structure = 7.297352566 x 10^-3 sr
052) second radiation = 1.438776841 x 10^-2 m*K/rad
053) Graviton fine-structure angle = 1.459470513 x 10^-2 rad
054) Fermion spin one-half = 5.000000000 x 10^-1 sr/rad
055) dielectric constant = 1.000000000 x 10^0 sr/sr
056) relative permeability = 1.000000000 x 10^0 rad/rad
057) Graviton momentum = 1.976296425 x 10^0 kg*m/s
058) Graviton spin two = 2.000000000 x 10^0 rad/sr
059) molar gas constant = 8.314462825 x 10^0 kg*m^2/s^2*mol*K
060) inverse Graviton fine-structure angle = 6.851799958 x 10^1 /rad
061) inverse Sommerfeld fine-structure = 1.370359991 x 10^2 /sr
062) impedance of vacuum = 3.767303134 x 10^2 kg*m^2/A^2*s^3
063) luminous efficacy = 6.830000000 x 10^2 cd*sr*s^3/kg*m^2
064) inverse conductance q. = 1.290640373 x 10^4 kg*m^2*sr/A^2*s^3*rad^2
065) von Klitzing constant = 2.581280746 x 10^4 kg*m^2/A^2*s^3*rad
066) Faraday constant = 9.648533208 x 10^4 A*s/mol
067) inverse Graviton mass = 1.516940749 x 10^8 /kg
068) speed of light in vacuum = 2.997924580 x 10^8 m/s
069) Graviton energy = 5.924787631 x 10^8 kg*m^2/s^2
070) Coulomb constant = 8.987551787 x 10^9 kg*m^3/4π*A^2*s^4
071) luminous energy = 4.046629952 x 10^11 cd*sr*s
072) Josephson quantum = 2.417989242 x 10^14 A*s^2*rad/kg*m^2
073) Josephson constant = 4.835978484 x 10^14 A*s^2*rad^2/kg*m^2*sr
074) molar Graviton mass = 3.969924838 x 10^15 kg/mol
075) electric displacement = 3.274244635 x 10^16 A*s/m
076) Graviton absorption = 8.987551787 x 10^16 m^2/s^2
077) Graviton displacement = 4.493775892 x 10^18 kg*s/m^2
078) magnetic potential = 1.233507207 x 10^19 kg*m/A*s^2
079) thermal conductance = 8.458721523 x 10^20 kg*m^2/s^3*K
080) Avogadro constant = 6.022140758 x 10^23 /mol
081) Graviton electric current = 9.815938471 x 10^24 A
082) Graviton mass field = 1.347200120 x 10^27 kg/m
083) electric potential = 3.697961576 x 10^27 kg*m^2/A*s^3
084) Graviton temperature = 4.291306104 x 10^31 K
085) molar Graviton energy = 3.567990507 x 10^32 kg*m^2/s^2*mol
086) electric conductivity = 5.424630531 x 10^32 A^2*s^3/kg*m^3
087) Graviton wave number = 2.043622760 x 10^35 /m
088) Graviton mass flow rate = 4.038804355 x 10^35 kg/s
089) angular velocity = 8.941631311 x 10^41 rad/s
090) Graviton frequency = 6.126626904 x 10^43 /s
091) Graviton force = 1.210803085 x 10^44 kg*m/s^2
092) surface concentration = 6.935065375 x 10^46 mol/m^2
093) electric flux density = 6.691320856 x 10^51 A*s/m^2
094) field acceleration = 1.836716539 x 10^52 m/s^2
095) Graviton power = 3.629896330 x 10^52 kg*m^2/s^3
096) magnetic flux density = 2.520823403 x 10^54 kg/A*s^2
097) radiant intensity = 4.974264704 x 10^54 kg*m^2/s^3*sr
098) luminous flux = 2.479219194 x 10^57 cd*sr
099) thermal conductivity = 1.728643582 x 10^56 kg*m/s^3*K
100) Graviton luminous intensity = 3.397422793 x 10^57 cd
101) magnetic field strength = 2.006007527 x 10^60 A/m
102) absorption rate = 5.506337658 x 10^60 m^2/s^3
103) surface density = 2.753168828 x 10^62 kg/m^2
104) electric field strength = 7.557238443 x 10^62 kg*m/A*s^3
105) inverse Graviton area = 4.176393985 x 10^70 /m^2
106) dynamic viscosity = 8.253792503 x 10^70 kg/m*s
107) surface tension = 2.474424742 x 10^79 kg/s^2
108) molar concentration = 1.417265744 x 10^82 mol/m^3
109) angular acceleration = 5.478203895 x 10^85 rad/s^2
110) electric charge density = 1.367453560 x 10^87 A*s/m^3
111) thermal transfer = 3.532695368 x 10^91 kg/s^3*K
112) electric current density = 4.099522638 x 10^95 A/m^2
113) Graviton mass density = 5.626438479 x 10^97 kg/m^3
114) Graviton density = 8.534973801 x 10^105 /m^3
115) radiant density = 5.056790721 x 10^114 kg/m*s^2
116) luminous density = 3.453788062 x 10^117 cd*sr*s/m^3
117) Graviton irradiance = 1.515987720 x 10^123 kg/s^3
118) Graviton radiance = 2.077448919 x 10^125 kg/s^3*sr
119) luminous flux density = 1.035419613 x 10^126 cd*sr/m^2
120) Graviton luminance = 1.418897612 x 10^128 cd/m^2
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https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants

You're, basically, complaining they use h-bar instead of h?

No, they'll keep them as-is just to further infuriate you.

The Last Conformist said:

You're, basically, complaining they use h-bar instead of h?

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No. Planck's base unit values are not primary.

THE QUANTUM OF ACTION

Denke constant = e^2*z0
Denke constant = (1.602176634 x 10^-19 A*s)^2 * 3.767303134 x 10^2 kg*m^2/A^2*s^3
Denke constant = 9.670554000 x 10^-36 kg*m^2/s

Denke constant = e^2/e0*c
Denke constant = (1.602176634 x 10^-19 A*s)^2 / 8.854187817 x 10^-12 A^2*s^4/kg*m^3 * 2.997924580 x 10^8 m/s
Denke constant = 9.670554000 x 10^-36 kg*m^2/s

Denke constant = e^2*u0*c
Denke constant = (1.602176634 x 10^-19 A*s)^2 * 1.256637061 x 10^-6 kg*m/A^2*s^2 * 2.997924580 x 10^8 m/s
Denke constant = 9.670554000 x 10^-36 kg*m^2/s

UNIVERSAL BASE UNITS

Graviton time: (hbar*G/c^5)^1/2 = 1.632219516 x 10^-44 s
Graviton length: (hbar*G/c^3)^1/2 = 4.893271007 x 10^-36 m
Avogadro substance: [(hbar*c/G)^1/2]/M = 1.660539068 x 10^-24 mol
Graviton mass: (hbar*c/G)^1/2 = 6.592215290 x 10^-9 kg
Sommerfeld fine-structure: e^2/2*e0*h*c = 7.297352566 x 10-3 sr
Graviton fine-structure angle: e^2/e0*h*c = 1.459470513 x 10^-2 rad
Archimedes constant: π = 3.141592653 x 10^0 π
Graviton current: e/[(hbar*G/c^5)^1/2] = 9.815938471 x 10^24 A
Graviton temperature: [(hbar*c^5/G)^1/2]/k = 4.291306104 x 10^31 K
Graviton intensity: Q/[(hbar*G/c^5)^1/2]alpha = 3.397422793 x 10^57 cd

It's a simple yes or no answer.

IglooDude said:

No, they'll keep them as-is just to further infuriate you.

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They do hate me I will admit. inquiries@nist.gov

Garry Denke said:

No. Planck's base unit values are not primary. It's a simple yes or no answer.

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What does "primary" even mean in context?

The Last Conformist said:

What does "primary" even mean in context?

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Planck constant: h = 6.6260693(11) x 10^-34 kg-m^2/s


Quantum of Angular Action
Planck constant = 6.626070150 x 10^-34 kg*m^2/s*rad
J*s/rad = Planck constant

Quantum of Action
Denke constant = 9.670554000 x 10^-36 kg*m^2/s
J*s = Denke constant

Garry Denke said:

Planck constant: h = 6.6260693(11) x 10^-34 kg-m^2/s

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That isn't an answer to my question. In fact, it's the least helpful thing I've got in lieu of an answer in quite some time.

Garry Denke said:

They do hate me I will admit. inquiries@nist.gov

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From overuse of that email address?

From what contact I've had with you in the last two hours, I'm more likely to take their side than yours.

Sorry but I'm not seeing the problem here, maybe you could explain?

What, you want them to quote it in J*sec?
Thing is the J is a derived unit. They are correct using kgm2/sec AFAIKT, that's SI units.

The value seems OK...

What is it you don't like?

I think this Wiki article might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units

Erik Mesoy said:

I think this Wiki article might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units

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I know what natural units are.

Garry Denke's "Einsteinian" units are the same, except he uses Planck's constant instead of h-bar. Since the difference 'tween these is trivial (Planck's constant is two pi times h-bar), I find it hard to imagine how it could influence "universality" or "primariness".

To increase my confusion, Garry Denke's replies failed the reverse Turing test.

The Last Conformist said:

To increase my confusion, Garry Denke's replies failed the reverse Turing test.

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I have no idea what the hell this thread is about, but that just made it worth my while to read.

I'm totally lost too, how is the data innacurate...

This is possibly the worst argument I've ever seen. No one even knows what they are arguing about..

Fetus4188 said:

This is possibly the worst argument I've ever seen. No one even knows what they are arguing about..

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You should've seen him argue about stonehenge.

Perfection said:

You should've seen him argue about stonehenge.

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I missed that. Summary?

The Last Conformist said:

I missed that. Summary?

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Lot's of technical jargon and browbeating. Little actual evidence.

Garry Denke said:

Planck constant: h = 6.6260693(11) x 10^-34 kg-m^2/s

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Damn, you beat me to it! Thats what I was going to say.

Reverse Turing Test. Indeed. 42, yes yes.
(and no computer written by a self-respecting programmer would ever print this message, so I believe I passed it. Nyah.)