Problems loading starting saves

ainwood · Nov 27, 2005, 04:21 PM

If you have tried to load the starting save for the Civ4 GOTM and it won't load because of the password protection (You get a message to this effect), then please use the save here instead:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attach...0&d=1133131896

Thanks.

Dusty4prez · Nov 28, 2005, 12:02 PM

I get this

ainwood · Nov 28, 2005, 12:15 PM

Have you tried a full uninstall (including deleting the install folders and the "My Games" subfolders, followed by a reinstall & patching?

Dusty4prez · Nov 28, 2005, 02:47 PM

yes I did that before I tried this one

ainwood · Nov 28, 2005, 09:16 PM

Do you get errors loading any other save files?

cursif · Nov 29, 2005, 09:55 AM

I'm having this problem as well. :/ Any clues what's going on?

ainwood · Nov 29, 2005, 12:29 PM

Unfortunately, no. I'm really not sure if this is a Civ4 problem or a GOTM problem, and need more information. One guy had a success by fully uninstalling via the control panel, followed by manually deleting the installation folder, then the (hidden?) folders in \My Documents\My Games\ - then reinstalling and patching.

Other things to try:
- Don't try to load the game via double-clicking on the save - start Civ4 the load it via the menu.
- Tell us whether other save files load OK - is it just the GOTM save that doesn't load?

Dusty4prez · Nov 29, 2005, 03:30 PM

it's just this one and I go in Civ IV then load it

Stilgar08 · Dec 01, 2005, 01:27 AM

I hope you mean this message? (gif attached) (I'm currently @work and can't check right now...)

I have the Blue Marble-mod and 2 screen-mods - (HOF with victory condition + "a proper score graph" from the graphic-mod-section

I uninstalled the Blue Marble and it didn't work anyways so I reinstalled

. I never had problems with other savegames (didn't play online or MP yet).

I don't think I can uninstall the HOF-screen since I put it in the real "assets" folder. Do I have to reinstall completely in order to be able to play GOTM's??

Would be a pity...

P.S.: Is it wanted that there aren't the right file-extensions in the save-files we download from here? It's not a big deal but I'm just curious...

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stilgar08

P.S.: Is it wanted that there aren't the right file-extensions in the save-files we download from here? It's not a big deal but I'm just curious...

If you download from the game release page you should receive it with the correct file extension because I've set the GOTM download server up to deliver the correct mime type. Also, my browser is usually picky about unknown extensions and adds .txt to them, but it's working fine on the unprotected one that Ainwood uploaded in the sticky thread, so I'm guessing that's also the case now for the main site server.

So I think the servers have been set up to give the browser the correct clues, and if this is still happening for you, maybe your browser is misbehaving?

Dusty4prez · Dec 01, 2005, 03:06 PM

well I guess I'm not gona get to play I hope the next one works

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 03:29 PM

@Dusty4prez: The first thing to check is if you have actually installed version 1.09. If your Civ4 is still expecting version 1.00 files then you will not be able to play the next game either.

Can you upload a sample file that's saved from your current Civ4 installation? We can then tell you whether it's running at version 1.00 or version 1.09.

Dusty4prez · Dec 01, 2005, 03:34 PM

well i will im 99% I have it

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 03:46 PM

You're right. It's creating version 1.01 save files. But your save misbehaves in my file reader ... investigating.

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 05:00 PM

I don't know if it's significant, but your save indicates that you have a mod installed - Superciv? Have you tried loading without that mod?

Dusty4prez · Dec 01, 2005, 05:23 PM

oh yea I don't run that if I try loading the GOTM

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 05:28 PM

How do you ensure that Superciv is not active?

Can you give me a save that's created from Civ4 the way it is when you try to load the GOTM save? It doesn't need to have many turns played. I just want to see if tehre's anything different about your setup.

Dusty4prez · Dec 01, 2005, 05:49 PM

okher i just put in 2 turns

WaxonWaxov · Dec 01, 2005, 05:50 PM

I'm getting this error also.....

Yes, I'm running version 1.09

here is a save of a game I just started and played a few turns of as you asked the other guy to do....

Attachment 105945

thanks for the efforts

AlanH · Dec 01, 2005, 06:34 PM

I've identified that both your copies of Civ4 produce saves that have four extra data bytes compared with the GOTM save. If they are expecting that extra data when they read a saved game then it's not surprising that they crash when it isn't there, as in the GOTM save.

I'm not sure where to go from here, but it seems we now have to work out why your copies of Civ4 are different from the 76 that have succeeded. It's 01:30 am here, so I'll have to bail out for the night.

Nov 27, 2005, 04:21 PM	#1
ainwood Watching. Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27,590	Problems loading starting saves If you have tried to load the starting save for the Civ4 GOTM and it won't load because of the password protection (You get a message to this effect), then please use the save here instead: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attach...0&d=1133131896 Thanks. __________________ Civ5 Tech Support FAQs \| Bug Report Forum \| Tech Support Forum

Nov 28, 2005, 12:02 PM	#2
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	I get this Last edited by Dusty4prez; Jan 12, 2006 at 07:22 PM.

Nov 28, 2005, 12:15 PM	#3
ainwood Watching. Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27,590	Have you tried a full uninstall (including deleting the install folders and the "My Games" subfolders, followed by a reinstall & patching? __________________ Civ5 Tech Support FAQs \| Bug Report Forum \| Tech Support Forum

Nov 28, 2005, 09:16 PM	#5
ainwood Watching. Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27,590	Do you get errors loading any other save files? __________________ Civ5 Tech Support FAQs \| Bug Report Forum \| Tech Support Forum

Nov 29, 2005, 12:29 PM	#7
ainwood Watching. Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27,590	Unfortunately, no. I'm really not sure if this is a Civ4 problem or a GOTM problem, and need more information. One guy had a success by fully uninstalling via the control panel, followed by manually deleting the installation folder, then the (hidden?) folders in \My Documents\My Games\ - then reinstalling and patching. Other things to try: - Don't try to load the game via double-clicking on the save - start Civ4 the load it via the menu. - Tell us whether other save files load OK - is it just the GOTM save that doesn't load? __________________ Civ5 Tech Support FAQs \| Bug Report Forum \| Tech Support Forum

Nov 28, 2005, 02:47 PM	#4
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	yes I did that before I tried this one

Nov 29, 2005, 09:55 AM	#6
cursif Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 49	I'm having this problem as well. :/ Any clues what's going on?

Nov 29, 2005, 03:30 PM	#8
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	it's just this one and I go in Civ IV then load it

Dec 01, 2005, 01:27 AM	#9
Stilgar08 King Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zeven, Germany (Lower Saxony ;) Posts: 637	I hope you mean this message? (gif attached) (I'm currently @work and can't check right now...) I have the Blue Marble-mod and 2 screen-mods - (HOF with victory condition + "a proper score graph" from the graphic-mod-section I uninstalled the Blue Marble and it didn't work anyways so I reinstalled . I never had problems with other savegames (didn't play online or MP yet). I don't think I can uninstall the HOF-screen since I put it in the real "assets" folder. Do I have to reinstall completely in order to be able to play GOTM's?? Would be a pity... P.S.: Is it wanted that there aren't the right file-extensions in the save-files we download from here? It's not a big deal but I'm just curious... Attached Thumbnails __________________ The Leader of the Fremen holds his hand over you! If you want to be different, just be yourself! KEEP ON ROCKING IN A FREE WORLD!!!

Dec 01, 2005, 03:06 PM	#11
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	well I guess I'm not gona get to play I hope the next one works

Dec 01, 2005, 03:29 PM	#12
AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 25,397 Images: 1	@Dusty4prez: The first thing to check is if you have actually installed version 1.09. If your Civ4 is still expecting version 1.00 files then you will not be able to play the next game either. Can you upload a sample file that's saved from your current Civ4 installation? We can then tell you whether it's running at version 1.00 or version 1.09. __________________ -- Alan -- - Fold for TeamCFC Avatar image: Milan Trykar. Courtesy of Snow Leopard Trust C-IV SGOTM Links: BtS SGOTM 17 Maintenance Thread \| Progress & Results \| BUFFY Mod for BtS 3.19 Mac OS X C-IV Utilities Drag'n'Drop Mod Installer \| GOTM Mac HOF Mod \| Macapaka .fpk File Extractor and Creator \| GOTM Mac Assets Checker Civ3 Utilities: 20K Culture Excel Calc w. Anarchy OS X: FileValet compressor/archiver for Civ3 Complete \| Civ3 1.29b2 Updater \| TextEdit for Civ3 Mods

Dec 01, 2005, 03:34 PM	#13
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	well i will im 99% I have it Last edited by Dusty4prez; Jan 12, 2006 at 07:22 PM.

Dec 01, 2005, 03:46 PM	#14
AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 25,397 Images: 1	You're right. It's creating version 1.01 save files. But your save misbehaves in my file reader ... investigating. __________________ -- Alan -- - Fold for TeamCFC Avatar image: Milan Trykar. Courtesy of Snow Leopard Trust C-IV SGOTM Links: BtS SGOTM 17 Maintenance Thread \| Progress & Results \| BUFFY Mod for BtS 3.19 Mac OS X C-IV Utilities Drag'n'Drop Mod Installer \| GOTM Mac HOF Mod \| Macapaka .fpk File Extractor and Creator \| GOTM Mac Assets Checker Civ3 Utilities: 20K Culture Excel Calc w. Anarchy OS X: FileValet compressor/archiver for Civ3 Complete \| Civ3 1.29b2 Updater \| TextEdit for Civ3 Mods

Dec 01, 2005, 05:00 PM	#15
AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 25,397 Images: 1	I don't know if it's significant, but your save indicates that you have a mod installed - Superciv? Have you tried loading without that mod? __________________ -- Alan -- - Fold for TeamCFC Avatar image: Milan Trykar. Courtesy of Snow Leopard Trust C-IV SGOTM Links: BtS SGOTM 17 Maintenance Thread \| Progress & Results \| BUFFY Mod for BtS 3.19 Mac OS X C-IV Utilities Drag'n'Drop Mod Installer \| GOTM Mac HOF Mod \| Macapaka .fpk File Extractor and Creator \| GOTM Mac Assets Checker Civ3 Utilities: 20K Culture Excel Calc w. Anarchy OS X: FileValet compressor/archiver for Civ3 Complete \| Civ3 1.29b2 Updater \| TextEdit for Civ3 Mods

Dec 01, 2005, 05:23 PM	#16
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	oh yea I don't run that if I try loading the GOTM

Dec 01, 2005, 05:28 PM	#17
AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 25,397 Images: 1	How do you ensure that Superciv is not active? Can you give me a save that's created from Civ4 the way it is when you try to load the GOTM save? It doesn't need to have many turns played. I just want to see if tehre's anything different about your setup. __________________ -- Alan -- - Fold for TeamCFC Avatar image: Milan Trykar. Courtesy of Snow Leopard Trust C-IV SGOTM Links: BtS SGOTM 17 Maintenance Thread \| Progress & Results \| BUFFY Mod for BtS 3.19 Mac OS X C-IV Utilities Drag'n'Drop Mod Installer \| GOTM Mac HOF Mod \| Macapaka .fpk File Extractor and Creator \| GOTM Mac Assets Checker Civ3 Utilities: 20K Culture Excel Calc w. Anarchy OS X: FileValet compressor/archiver for Civ3 Complete \| Civ3 1.29b2 Updater \| TextEdit for Civ3 Mods

Dec 01, 2005, 05:49 PM	#18
Dusty4prez Krazy Kanuck Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 413	okher i just put in 2 turns Last edited by Dusty4prez; Jan 12, 2006 at 07:22 PM.

Dec 01, 2005, 05:50 PM	#19
WaxonWaxov Warlord Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 229	I'm getting this error also..... Yes, I'm running version 1.09 here is a save of a game I just started and played a few turns of as you asked the other guy to do.... Attachment 105945 thanks for the efforts __________________ If is isn't made for the PC, then it's not really Civilization.

Dec 01, 2005, 06:34 PM	#20
AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 25,397 Images: 1	I've identified that both your copies of Civ4 produce saves that have four extra data bytes compared with the GOTM save. If they are expecting that extra data when they read a saved game then it's not surprising that they crash when it isn't there, as in the GOTM save. I'm not sure where to go from here, but it seems we now have to work out why your copies of Civ4 are different from the 76 that have succeeded. It's 01:30 am here, so I'll have to bail out for the night. __________________ -- Alan -- - Fold for TeamCFC Avatar image: Milan Trykar. Courtesy of Snow Leopard Trust C-IV SGOTM Links: BtS SGOTM 17 Maintenance Thread \| Progress & Results \| BUFFY Mod for BtS 3.19 Mac OS X C-IV Utilities Drag'n'Drop Mod Installer \| GOTM Mac HOF Mod \| Macapaka .fpk File Extractor and Creator \| GOTM Mac Assets Checker Civ3 Utilities: 20K Culture Excel Calc w. Anarchy OS X: FileValet compressor/archiver for Civ3 Complete \| Civ3 1.29b2 Updater \| TextEdit for Civ3 Mods

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