Great Doctors?

The Thracian · May 20, 2006

I think thinking that a great doctor great people category should be added. They could decrease research times for a particular health-related technology by half, Join the city to Improve health by 3 or start a golden age.

Possible Great Doctors

Avicenna
Philippus Aureolus
Hippocrates
Galen
Harvey
Versallies
Morgagni
Virchow
Louis Pasteur
Taussig
Morton

I really do think great Doctors deserve there own category

Sohan · May 20, 2006

That sounds like a pretty interesting idea. I wouldn't mind seeing Great Doctors included in the game. Although, maybe they need another benefit? Like, aside from joining a city to improve health and helping to research a health-improving technology. Those two seem like relatively small improvements in comparison to a Great Artist's' 4000 culture bomb or a Great Scientist's Academy or a Great Prophet's religious buildings or a Great Engineer's hurry production ability. I would do my utmost to avoid getting a Great Doctor just so I could get a GP that is more useful. Still, having Great People that improve health or even happiness would be pretty cool.

TheLopez · May 20, 2006

Hey Thracian, Sohan,

I have already implemented the Great Doctor check out my sig for the link to the thread.

The Thracian · May 20, 2006

cool.

Are they like other great people with famous names and uses eg. help discover a tech like I said

synthboy · May 21, 2006

Sohan said:
Maybe they need another benefit?

How about build hospital? Gives the city a hospital regardless of the era. Redundant later on though....

I wonder how you're going to get a Great Doctor. Where do the points come from?

Sohan · May 21, 2006

I'm guessing things like Grocer, Granary, Acqueduct and Hospital would provide points for a Great Doctor, as all of them are partially or totally oriented towards health.

Mewtarthio · May 21, 2006

Not points for the Great Doctor. Employment for doctor specialists. Points only come from wonders (Red Cross jumps to mind).

Lockesdonkey · May 22, 2006

It should probably be "Great Physician" because that's less colloquial than "Doctor".

As we know, Great People do one of three things:

1. Create Golden Age with one other GP.
2. Discover a tech.
3. Join the city: the Great Physician would be a BIG Health benefit, plus definately a Science benefit and maybe a Hammers benefit (healthy workers are productive workers) or a Happiness benefit (healthy citizens are happy citizens).
4. DO A UNIQUE THING. This would probably best be modeled as establishing an institution, called, for the moment an Institute of Health, or perhaps a Great Hospital, which would increase Health in that city by, say, 50-100%.

For the list of Great Physicians, you missed (in no particular order):
Maimondes
Jonas Salk
(arguable) Sigmund Freud
Benjamin Spock (no relation to our beloved narrator Mr. Spock)
Edward Jenner
Albert Sabin
Linus Pauling?
And, of course, my father ;-)

Mewtarthio · May 22, 2006

Maybe they could be sacrificed to heal your entire army to full strength and give them exeptional regenerative capabilities for X turns thereafter.

Lockesdonkey · May 22, 2006

Only useful to those of us frequently at war. I've had entire games with hardly a war, so this would be useless for me.

TheLopez · May 23, 2006

Here is the description of the great doctor from my mod:

- Great Doctors that join cities give +2 to city health, +3 to research
and +2 to culture

- Citizens specialized as doctors give +1 to city health, +1 to research
and +1 to culture

- Units in the same plot as a great doctors have a very small
chance that they may be taught one of their skills. Players are
notified when a unit is taught a new skill by a great doctor.

- Great Doctors that join cities provide cities with at least double
extra production, research and culture points than regular doctors

- Great Doctors can build the military hospital building in cities to increase
city health, happiness and healing rate.

- Citizens specialized as doctors provide cities with extra production,
research and culture points

- Great Doctors can build the field hospital plot improvement, this new
plot improvements provide medical support to damaged units.

- The following buildings now provide points towards generating a great
doctor:
- Red Cross (1)
- Military Hospital (1)

- The following buildings now allow the citizens to be specialized as
doctor:
- Red Cross (3)
- Hospital (2)
- University (2)

- The following buildings now provide free doctor:
- Red Cross (2)

- Military Hospital:
- Heals units 15% extra each turn
- Required to train combat medics
- Can only be built by great doctors

- Field Hospital:
- By default increases unit healing by 15%
- Can only be built by Great Doctors

@The Thracian - Yes the do have unique names

Yes you read the description right, they do provide health benefits to cities, here's a screenshots to prove it:

Lockesdonkey · May 23, 2006

Is that the Civ3 Scientist?

TheLopez · May 23, 2006

I don't remember. The image itself was inside of one of the packs included with Civ4.

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The Thracian

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Sohan

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TheLopez

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The Thracian

Warlord

synthboy

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Sohan

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Mewtarthio

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Lockesdonkey

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TheLopez

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