New Leader's Attitude

Hackapell · Jul 22, 2007

We all know that some leaders conduct their foreign policy in different ways. For example, Monty is a killer psychopath, Izzy and Brennus are religious nut-cases, Nappy and Alex are flat-out warmongerers, Louis and Cathy cuddle up to you, then Backstab, and Toku is an isolationist. My question is what will the attitudes of the new BtS leaders be, based solely on what we know?

SkippyT · Jul 22, 2007

I've found that Charlemagne is a religious-monger. He often founds Buddhism now if he beats Isabella to it.
and Sitting Bull just won't give up in his wars. I try and try to contact him even though he's losing the war but he just won't give up.
Surjavayarman (spelling?) seems to be just a good player all-in-all even though he has a crappy UU and UB, like I've found out.

I_pity_the_fool · Jul 22, 2007

Darius doesn't seem to care much about which religion you run - which is just as well, since his favorite civic is Free Religion. He had the Xian holy city, and I had the Buddhist. The biggest attitude modifier was -2.

p dandy · Jul 22, 2007

SkippyT said:
Sitting Bull just won't give up in his wars. I try and try to contact him even though he's losing the war but he just won't give up.

haha, I love it...a stubborn AI.

Watiggi · Jul 22, 2007

SkippyT said:
Sitting Bull just won't give up in his wars. I try and try to contact him even though he's losing the war but he just won't give up.

Wow. That explains why I couldn't get him to capitulate. I was thinking it was a more generically stubborn AI, but yeah, could be his personality too. Makes sense.

SkippyT · Jul 23, 2007

Watiggi said:
Wow. That explains why I couldn't get him to capitulate. I was thinking it was a more generically stubborn AI, but yeah, could be his personality too. Makes sense.

Yeah. Even though he's 1:2 my power, he won't give up and I think it's great

sneaky · Jul 23, 2007

Sitting Bull is, well, a real bully, he won't give up.

João II seems a bit of an arrogant tech demander. His traits let him create a huge empire and keep up with the human player.

Zara Yaqob is a pretty 'normal' guy, not really a warmonger and very competent.

klokwerk · Jul 23, 2007

I don't agree. In my game Sitting Bull capitulated vs De Gaulle and his vassal Tokugawa. He was something like 1:3 or 1:4 power ratio though, so it was really a good decision to give up.

Otto von B. · Jul 23, 2007

In my game he capitulated vs me but I already had tanks and he was still defendig with his UUs^^

aronnax · Jul 23, 2007

Are there any new leaders, that are like Elizabeth, Good Friend, heck cares about religion, good trading parther and ally, you can backstab her a thousand times and it will only be a cautious, not that I need to. Though she is a little petty, i cancel trade just once and she refused to talk to me. Any way is any of the new leaders like her?

Ikael · Jul 23, 2007

Joao really seems like a good, competent AI. He builds a great empire, then, if you acess to his first demands, becames a good friend. If not, well...

Arwon · Jul 23, 2007

Pericles seems pretty reasonable so far.

Dnomal · Jul 23, 2007

Pacal seems to be a righ backstabber, always declaring war on me when I'm fighting another war.

Also Shaka has become even more of a warmonger, declaring war on me about five times in my current game.

All the AIs seem ready to declare war at the drop of a hat, but they seem more reasonable at peace, for example I cut down about a quater of my enemy's army, and even though their power rating was higher than me, they agreed to peace, actually tributing me stuff!

azaris · Jul 23, 2007

Suryavarman seems to be a zealot like Izzy but without the military might. He ends up fighting some hopeless religious war and gets left behind or vassalized.

Gilgamesh is militaristic and likes espionage but is a good ally (sort of like Ghengis).

futurehermit · Jul 23, 2007

Also Shaka has become even more of a warmonger

AlessioCerci · Jul 23, 2007

aronnax said:
Are there any new leaders, that are like Elizabeth, Good Friend, heck cares about religion, good trading parther and ally, you can backstab her a thousand times and it will only be a cautious, not that I need to. Though she is a little petty, i cancel trade just once and she refused to talk to me. Any way is any of the new leaders like her?

Surayaravararayaranamanaaravanaman. 2000BC i axe rushed him. By the end of the game he is friendly, and my vassal (not capitulation, during peace)
But i expect if he has different religion he will not be so nice.

AlessioCerci · Jul 23, 2007

Dnomal said:
Pacal seems to be a righ backstabber, always declaring war on me when I'm fighting another war.

Also Shaka has become even more of a warmonger, declaring war on me about five times in my current game.

Pacal seems ok to me - like Hannibal. I completely agree with your comment on Shaka, same thing happened to me.

SkippyT · Jul 23, 2007

When I come to think of it, I haven't had a game with Boudica in it, except on a terra map where she was Mansa Musa's tiny colony with 1 island and 1 chunk of land with little but jungle.
She had opportunity to do little.

Watiggi · Jul 24, 2007

I didn't find her particularly aggressive in my game. We also had different religions too.

RPGary · Jul 24, 2007

Sitting Bull was quite peaceful in my opinion. He got a religion and remained friendly towards everyone. But I think that was just a "one of" occasion.

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