Guess the New Civs - Page 79

Louis XXIV · Apr 09, 2012, 10:26 AM

Yeah.

snipperrabbit!! · Apr 09, 2012, 10:29 AM

Kongo will be part of a double along with Portugal !

Vlade Divac · Apr 09, 2012, 10:33 AM

There was a pretty sweet mod for Civ 4 that had "Pirate" as a civilization. That would be quite a shwerve that some would detest, but it definitely would add to the interest.

Qu3ster · Apr 09, 2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangur Bán

There's a guy on Wikipedia claiming that the next civ is the Zulu, with Impi and Kraal as UU/UB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ap...Civilization_V

Look at this guy's page from 19 February: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=477712770 . What the hell! He has nearly every new civ right, although he's wrong about leaders and UU's:
Byzantium - check
Carthage - check
Celts - check
Maya - check
Netherlands - check
Ethiopia - check
Austria - check
So yeah, Zulu very likely will be the 9th civ. He only has Poland instead of Huns, which he corrected later. Apparently we were going to get Winged Hussars and Uhlans. He also has Portugal as a speculated civ. Looks the devs planned to include Poland, but for some reason they changed their mind.

Guandao · Apr 09, 2012, 10:48 AM

How can we trust him though? Does he even work for Firaxis?

Qu3ster · Apr 09, 2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guandao

How can we trust him though? Does he even work for Firaxis?

Of course he still may be wrong, but since he knew about the other civs earlier, there's a good reason to think he's right.

fat_tonle · Apr 09, 2012, 11:04 AM

I think it sounds pretty legit. It's not likely he guessed right on civs like Austria or even Ethiopia. Too many variables.

Also note that the color is light green and not the yellow and not the color we are accustomed to seeing for Shaka. Egypt is already light yellow so unlikely to use that color again.

Portugal Feitoria could be a UI for coastal trading posts... extra defense/gold. But I guess we'll get that at a later time.

nokmirt · Apr 09, 2012, 11:12 AM

We have an idea its the Zulu.

Louis XXIV · Apr 09, 2012, 11:13 AM

The problem is there are at least an error with Byzantium.

snipperrabbit!! · Apr 09, 2012, 11:16 AM

browsing through the history is interesting. They even considered australia at one point.

nokmirt · Apr 09, 2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis XXIV

The problem is there are at least an error with Byzantium.

Yes, but not the color. Firaxis could have posted that article. Who knows it is fun to speculate.

fat_tonle · Apr 09, 2012, 11:24 AM

The colors were inaccurate in the previous article. That last wiki article was updated shortly after the demo aired.

But regardless of guessing wrong on almost every leader and unique traits, he had the right civs. No one could guess those 9 civs out right, even if he was wrong on Poland/Huns.

bonafide11 · Apr 09, 2012, 11:26 AM

Being wrong about the Huns is a pretty big deal considering Attila is on the cover of the game and is being used to market the game. I doubt they were a last second addition.

fat_tonle · Apr 09, 2012, 11:34 AM

I also don't doubt Poland was under consideration for a while, considering we got Austria and the other Euro civ could have easily been them considering the Medieval scenario.

They wanted some Eastern Euro presence without leaning toward a European bias. Whenever the decision was made, I am sure there was some discussion before finally leaning toward a Eurasian civ like the Huns. Poland AND Austria would have been overkill.

Louis XXIV · Apr 09, 2012, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokmirt

Yes, but not the color. Firaxis could have posted that article. Who knows it is fun to speculate.

If anyone, it's more likely to be a beta tester.

seasnake · Apr 09, 2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qu3ster

Look at this guy's page from 19 February: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=477712770 . What the hell! He has nearly every new civ right, although he's wrong about leaders and UU's:
Byzantium - check
Carthage - check
Celts - check
Maya - check
Netherlands - check
Ethiopia - check
Austria - check
So yeah, Zulu very likely will be the 9th civ. He only has Poland instead of Huns, which he corrected later. Apparently we were going to get Winged Hussars and Uhlans. He also has Portugal as a speculated civ. Looks the devs planned to include Poland, but for some reason they changed their mind.

I bet Portugal and Kongo form a DLC later, and Poland may be a DLC preorder bonus.

fuzzatron717 · Apr 09, 2012, 11:46 AM

well it's been fixed wikipedia that is. no more false civs.

fuzzatron717 · Apr 09, 2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasnake

I bet Portugal and Kongo form a DLC later, and Poland may be a DLC preorder bonus.

okay maybe not on your wikipedia page i go on the actual page article i type in civilization V gods and kings. i get info there. sorry wrong reply to i ment it to who you replyed too seasnake.

GenjiKhan · Apr 09, 2012, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasnake

I bet Portugal and Kongo form a DLC later, and Poland may be a DLC preorder bonus.

Usually the dlc's civilizations have some sort of scenario . What kind of scenario both of them could fit into?

awesome · Apr 09, 2012, 12:21 PM

portugal and kongo had like three wars against each other

Apr 09, 2012, 10:26 AM	#1561
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Apr 09, 2012, 10:29 AM	#1562
snipperrabbit!! Deity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,266	Kongo will be part of a double along with Portugal ! __________________ "Values too far out of the expected range can cause the game to behave strangely."Civ2Rules 46Techs, AUB for button makers, 59Miscs, 72Pack, walking on the moon, AUB from WW, italian renaissance BoardgameButtons

Apr 09, 2012, 10:33 AM	#1563
Vlade Divac Warlord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beardistan Posts: 115	There was a pretty sweet mod for Civ 4 that had "Pirate" as a civilization. That would be quite a shwerve that some would detest, but it definitely would add to the interest. __________________ "It's the responsibility of any true fan of Civ to slather Firaxis and 2K Games with affection and let them know in no uncertain terms that this product (Civ V) is like your first kiss, a smile from your first-born, and the whisper of an angel, all wrapped in a computer box."

Apr 09, 2012, 11:12 AM	#1568
nokmirt Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 4,228	We have an idea its the Zulu. __________________ "All science trembles at the searing logic of your fiery intellect. " Brig. Gen. Lewis A. Armistead

Apr 09, 2012, 11:13 AM	#1569
Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 11,816	The problem is there are at least an error with Byzantium. __________________ Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Ben Franklin

Apr 09, 2012, 10:48 AM	#1565
Guandao Prince Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 359 Images: 31	How can we trust him though? Does he even work for Firaxis?

Apr 09, 2012, 11:04 AM	#1567
fat_tonle Prince Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 476	I think it sounds pretty legit. It's not likely he guessed right on civs like Austria or even Ethiopia. Too many variables. Also note that the color is light green and not the yellow and not the color we are accustomed to seeing for Shaka. Egypt is already light yellow so unlikely to use that color again. Portugal Feitoria could be a UI for coastal trading posts... extra defense/gold. But I guess we'll get that at a later time.

Apr 09, 2012, 11:16 AM	#1570
snipperrabbit!! Deity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,266	browsing through the history is interesting. They even considered australia at one point. __________________ "Values too far out of the expected range can cause the game to behave strangely."Civ2Rules 46Techs, AUB for button makers, 59Miscs, 72Pack, walking on the moon, AUB from WW, italian renaissance BoardgameButtons

Apr 09, 2012, 11:24 AM	#1572
fat_tonle Prince Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 476	The colors were inaccurate in the previous article. That last wiki article was updated shortly after the demo aired. But regardless of guessing wrong on almost every leader and unique traits, he had the right civs. No one could guess those 9 civs out right, even if he was wrong on Poland/Huns.

Apr 09, 2012, 11:26 AM	#1573
bonafide11 Worker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: STL Posts: 2,762	Being wrong about the Huns is a pretty big deal considering Attila is on the cover of the game and is being used to market the game. I doubt they were a last second addition. __________________ The only constant is change.

Apr 09, 2012, 11:34 AM	#1574
fat_tonle Prince Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 476	I also don't doubt Poland was under consideration for a while, considering we got Austria and the other Euro civ could have easily been them considering the Medieval scenario. They wanted some Eastern Euro presence without leaning toward a European bias. Whenever the decision was made, I am sure there was some discussion before finally leaning toward a Eurasian civ like the Huns. Poland AND Austria would have been overkill.

Apr 09, 2012, 11:46 AM	#1577
fuzzatron717 Holy Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh Posts: 775	well it's been fixed wikipedia that is. no more false civs.

Apr 09, 2012, 12:21 PM	#1580
awesome Emperor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: behind you Posts: 1,750	portugal and kongo had like three wars against each other

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