Peace Renegotiation Uneasiness

tao · Feb 23, 2004

In recent discussions about deals with the AIs, we have included the option to renegotiate peace. I see the advantage of this option, but also I have an uneasy feeling about using it.

If we renegotiate peace, there is no way to back out. All other deals can be tested for availability and then either be executed or postponed.

Once peace is on the table, we have to make the deal or we are at war. This is why in "real games" you don't do it lightheartedly. Whereas in the demogame, people may open the savegame, try it, discuss it, and back out without consequences. Is this "fair play"?

Opinions?

Edit/add:
I just read the Constitution (I considered it useful since I run for Govener of Audiac) and read:

Code:

[B]The Constitution of Fanatica[/B]

Article K.  All irreversible game actions must progress during a 
            public turnchat, while reversible game actions(ie build 
            queues) that adhere to legal instruction can be prepared 
            offline.

Does this prohibit probing for peace renegotiaion? Do we need a Judicial Review on this topic?

Chieftess · Feb 23, 2004

That was my question way back in DG2 when I discovered it (it was in DG1 - shows how legal-savvy I am.

). Apparently, it is allowed...

ravensfire · Feb 23, 2004

No need for a Judicial Review. Keep reading the Constitution, specifically Article M of the Constitution, with particular emphasis on the first sub-section.

Code:

Article M. Playing the Save
            Commission of any game action by any person other than 
            the Designated Player while carrying out their duties 
            that is not instantly reversible without reloading the 
            save is strictly forbidden.
              1.  Exception: Determining options in the renegotiation 
                  of Peace agreements requires an action of acceptance 
                  or war to exit the bargain screen. This may be done 
                  but the game must be immediately closed without 
                  saving.

-- Ravensfire

tao · Feb 23, 2004

Thank you. I should read till the end before posting.

Sarevok · Feb 23, 2004

It is something I think the elected officials can and have to do sometimes in order to give their instructions. I have to look at the save game to get all of my data, though I dont go ahead. To find out which deals they will accept the FA office needs to do such things.

ravensfire · Feb 23, 2004

Originally posted by tao
Thank you. I should read till the end before posting.

Not a problem - someone would have gotten this one soon! It's just another value-added service from your friendly, customer-oriented Fanatican Judiciary!

-- Ravensfire

Shalashaska · Feb 25, 2004

When i first found out about these rules (the Hard way) i thought the bit about only for renogoating peace was bad, because its ireverable. That should change.

Peace Renegotiation Uneasiness

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