Would the USSR have defeated Germany without US-UK invasion of france?

Would the USSR have defeated Germany without US-UK invasion of france

  • Yes

    Votes: 53 72.6%

  • NO

    Votes: 20 27.4%
  • Total voters
    73
Maybe, but it was Stalin who specifically requested the Western Allies to open a second front on the Atlantic coast to give the Soviets more breathing space.
 
Bright day
From tales of my grandmother and history lessons- the Germans were already retreating when Allies landed- somewhere I read that they were even out of Russia by that time.
May all your days be bright.
 
By that stage, almost certainly, though it would have taken much longer and cost much more lives.
 
Stalin could have done it. By 1944, the Soviets had enough joementum to defeat the Axis singlehandedly. It certainly would have taken longer, but he would have done it.
 
Yes, but how crappy would it've been if the Warsaw Pact had extended itself to the English Channel?
 
no, unless we would have put our troops in the USSR. it would be interesting to see what would have happened if the US didn't have to focus half her power on Japan during WWII.
 
Originally posted by Gladi
I read that they were even out of Russia by that time.
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No, the last Germans weren't chased out of the pre-1939 Soviet territory until about August 1944. The Germans retained a few footholds in the Baltic states untill the end of the war (the Courland pocket being the most notable of these).

Given that the Soviets were demolishing entire German Army Groups more or less at will from 1944 onwards, I can't see how the Germans could have possibly stoped them short of Berlin.
 
No way, if Japan had gone on unchecked by the U.S. and finished with China they could have attacked the Russians, it wouldn't have been the first time the Russians and Japanese went at it, either.
 
Nazi-Germany would still fall.
 
But the Germany had considerable forces in the West. Imagine that army plus the remainder of the East Army, against the Soviets. The casualty rate was 4 to1 and I believe that The Soviets would have been stopped before reaching the Oder.
 
Originally posted by General Brown
But the Germany had considerable forces in the West. Imagine that army plus the remainder of the East Army, against the Soviets. The casualty rate was 4 to1 and I believe that The Soviets would have been stopped before reaching the Oder.
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That really depends on the nature of the question, for example, if the West still threatened invasion, troops of smoe signifigant level would need to remain. If it assumes the west were out of the war entirely, then the majority could have been shifted. Given the state of Germany at this stage though, she was the one more likely to run out of steam than Russia...
 
Their is no way Germany could have turned things around in 44. The USSR was giving Germany a hell of a kicking before June and their is no reason to assume that this would not continue if d-day never happened.
 
Of course Russia would have won all the way.

By the way, the UK/US didn't invade France, they've freed it. If they didn't come in Normandy, France, Germany and Italy would be Soviet Republics.
 
Yes, *provided* that the Soviet Union continued to recieve
Lend-Lease at historic levels. The Red Army owed its mobility
to American trucks and jeeps. It would of course have taken longer...
 
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