(6-CP) Goddess of Wisdom Change

[Stalker0]

Current:
Goddess of Wisdom

• +2 Faith and Science in Cities with a Specialist.
• +1 Science and Faith in every City.
• +2 Great Scientist Points in the Capital/Holy City

Proposal: Goddess of Wisdom - Increase per city faith from +1 to +2. Remove +2 faith from specialist.

Rationale:
My problem with wisdom is in order to get decent faith out of it, you basically have to go merchant specialists (libraries take too long to get online). so that's weird thematically, and wisdom isn't all that strong at the moment. This change would allow wisdom to generate faith from raw power expansion, and then you can go libraries and get big science should you want to. It still has a specialist incentive in the +2 science, but now that the faith is better covered you can afford to delay those specialists a bit shoudl you need to.

Database Changes

 

[Recursive]

Current state of things?

 

[adan_eslavo]

As I said on discord, a screenshot of the Belief, or complete description of current state would be good for newbies who do not know them by heart. It could be applied to all of your recent suggestions.

 

[adan_eslavo]

Current	Stalker0	???
+2 Faith and Science in Cities with a Specialist. +1 Science and Faith in every City. +2 Great Scientist Points in the Capital/Holy City	+2 Science in Cities with a Specialist. +1 Science and +2 Faith in every City. +2 Great Scientist Points in the Capital/Holy City.	+2 Science in Cities with a Specialist. +1 Science and +2 in every City. +2 Great Scientist Points in the Capital and Holy City (doubled if Holy City is in Capital).

I think this is a good change.
I would suggest something more. It is said that GSciP are granted to Capital and Holy City. What happens if it is one city (very frequent situation)? I would suggest doubling it with Holy city. If it works like that, I would suggest expanding the description because it is not obvious.

 

[rkkn]

My understanding of "in the Capital/Holy City" is that the belief is granting bonuses to the holy city, but when you don't have a holy city yet, the capital serves as the holy city.

 

[adan_eslavo]

My understanding of "in the Capital/Holy City" is that the belief is granting bonuses to the holy city, but when you don't have a holy city yet, the capital serves as the holy city.

That's unclear, so I would like to here how it works now to be sure. Description is nasty.

 

[azum4roll]

Capital always counts as Holy City before a religion is founded.

 

[adan_eslavo]

So the bonus is for Holy City only? It's not that clear from the description.

 

[pineappledan]

I deem this totally unnecessary and counterproductive if the proposal to move forge into ancient era is approved. deemphasizing the specialist requirement and moving more onto the flat per-city bonus makes the pantheon less interactive, and offer very little incentive. If the Forge unlocks at bronze working you won't be locked to opening up trade for the merchant specialist anymore, so this pantheon can keep its current bonuses.

 

[Recursive]

I would sponsor this, but I don't want to make the poll even more complicated.

 

[N.Core]

I sponsor this, I like chaos.

 

[Recursive]

And chaos you received. Merged into a master voting thread.