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Players, please cast your votes in the poll above. Vote "Yea" for every proposal you'd be okay with if it were implemented. Vote "Nay" if you'd be okay if these proposals weren't implemented. You can vote for any number of options.
All votes are public. If you wish, you can discuss your choice(s) in the thread below. You can change your vote as many times as you want until the poll closes.
VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 30
Discussion Thread: (7-30) Summer Palace: Change +20% Diplomatic Unit Boost to Apply to All Cities
Proposer: @Stalker0
Sponsor: @Recursive
Proposal Details
Current: The summer palace gives +20% diplomatic unit production boost to the city in which you build it.
Proposal: Change this bonus to apply to all cities.
Rationale: Teh summer palace is an ok wonder but nothing special. But further, while you would often need to build this in the capital (because its your major hammer city), you often build diplomatic units in secondary cities, so you lose the bonus. This ensures all of your cities benefits and gives the wonder a nice boost to round it out.
Sponsor Note: This change would require providing a means to create "all city effects" for wonders, which is something people have asked for on many other kinds of wonders and abilities.
VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 31
Discussion Thread: (7-31) Diplomatic Units Can Pass Through Borders Regardless of Open Borders Agreement
Proposer: @Enginseer
Sponsor: @Enginseer
Proposal Details
Don't shoot the Messenger!
Players, please cast your votes in the poll above. Vote "Yea" for every proposal you'd be okay with if it were implemented. Vote "Nay" if you'd be okay if these proposals weren't implemented. You can vote for any number of options.
All votes are public. If you wish, you can discuss your choice(s) in the thread below. You can change your vote as many times as you want until the poll closes.
VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 30
Discussion Thread: (7-30) Summer Palace: Change +20% Diplomatic Unit Boost to Apply to All Cities
Proposer: @Stalker0
Sponsor: @Recursive
Proposal Details
Current: The summer palace gives +20% diplomatic unit production boost to the city in which you build it.
Proposal: Change this bonus to apply to all cities.
Rationale: Teh summer palace is an ok wonder but nothing special. But further, while you would often need to build this in the capital (because its your major hammer city), you often build diplomatic units in secondary cities, so you lose the bonus. This ensures all of your cities benefits and gives the wonder a nice boost to round it out.
Sponsor Note: This change would require providing a means to create "all city effects" for wonders, which is something people have asked for on many other kinds of wonders and abilities.
VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 31
Discussion Thread: (7-31) Diplomatic Units Can Pass Through Borders Regardless of Open Borders Agreement
Proposer: @Enginseer
Sponsor: @Enginseer
Proposal Details
Don't shoot the Messenger!
| Current | Proposed | Justification |
|---|---|---|
Diplomatic Units (Emissary, Envoy, Diplomat, Ambassador) cannot enter another rival territory without:
| Diplomatic Units (Emissary, Envoy, Diplomat, Ambassador) may pass through rival territories without requiring an Open Border Agreement regardless of requirements. | One aspect that I've noticed in Tall and Wide Diplomacy is that Tall Civilizations may be blockaded by Wide Civilizations who deny them Open Borders; preventing Tall Civilizations from accessing city-states or forcing them to walk around a certain way; costing valuable time. Historically if leaders did not like that country's diplomats, they would mistreat them often ending in a declaration of war! Diplomatic Units also have decreased line of sight so they make for poor scouts for warmongers and quite a waste of time if war was soon! |
| Summer Palace and Foreign Bureau grants a promotion to all Diplomatic Units to pass through rival territories. | Summer Palace's and Foreign Bureau's promotion would no longer grant this since Diplomatic Units may pass through rival territories without having this bonus anymore! | They would no longer need it if all Diplomatic Units could pass through. |
