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[12:59] abukhir: Hello Croxys
[12:59] David: hello!
[13:00] abukhir: We are just waiting for another BAT member and it will be ok !
[13:00] abukhir: he's trying to connect...
[13:00] *** titanicwhiz18@comcast.net (RegentMan) has joined the conversation.
[13:00] abukhir: Hello RegentMan
[13:00] abukhir: Nice to see you
[13:01] RegentMan: Howdy.
[13:01] RegentMan: How goes it?
[13:01] abukhir: very well
[13:01] abukhir: We are happy to meet again
[13:01] David: as are we
[13:01] RegentMan:
[13:02] abukhir: So you met COG ?
[13:02] RegentMan: Yes we have.
[13:02] abukhir: We met CGA on our side...
[13:03] RegentMan: Ack, we met them too. Any luck talking to them?
[13:03] abukhir: they said hello, that's all
[13:04] RegentMan: Heh, same with us.
[13:04] David: i am quite sure they ar eup to something
[13:04] abukhir: We did not ay more, because of your difficult relations
[13:04] RegentMan: CFC-GCA relations are not known to be strong in the past.
[13:05] abukhir: we may say more, but we didn't think it would be "easy"
[13:05] RegentMan: Yeah, we haven't been in contact lately. Our ambassador contacted them asking for chat times, and they never replied.
[13:06] abukhir: I think it's clear enough...
[13:06] David: I don't want to be hostle to them right away, but I think it would be best if we make sure we keep ourselves well defended
[13:06] RegentMan: Four teams need to lose this game, and I'm sure GCA would love CFC to be one of them.
[13:07] RegentMan: I agree.
[13:07] abukhir: For us, it doesn't matter if it's them or COG the best third one ally
[13:07] abukhir: and if the relations are not "sure" it is far best to be COG...
[13:08] RegentMan: And it might be with one of the unknowns. GWT or EVG, perhaps.
[13:08] David: if GCA was interested in an alliance or peace they would have stayed in contact
[13:08] RegentMan: Indeed.
[13:09] abukhir: I think we can reject CGA as ally, but we have to find the third one not too late
[13:09] RegentMan: True. The other teams are already probably forming alliances.
[13:09] abukhir: exactly
[13:09] abukhir:
[13:10] RegentMan: So the best thing would be for you to formally meet COG and get discussions open between you two.
[13:10] RegentMan: Once that happens, we can start three-way chats and form our alliance.
[13:11] abukhir: Yes, it's a good idea, but firstly what are your feeling about them ?
[13:11] abukhir: We can't have a 3 sides discussion without meeting them in-game
[13:11] RegentMan: At first, they seemed a bit hesitent.
[13:11] David: but things have improved
[13:12] RegentMan: But as time has moved on, they've opened up.
[13:12] David: I think they realized they need alliances =P
[13:13] David: At this point I think we should start ncluding COG
[13:14] abukhir: I think we can't have discussion without meeting them in-game
[13:14] David: and i need to start typing better
[13:14] *** holocanthe@hotmail.com (holocanthe) has joined the conversation.
[13:14] abukhir: Our president is coming !
[13:14] David: yay!
[13:14] RegentMan: Hello holocanthe!
[13:14] holocanthe: salut
[13:14] abukhir: hello mr president
[13:14] RegentMan: Ca va?
[13:14] holocanthe: yes
[13:15] f.humblot@free.fr (E-mail Address Not Verified): holo tu te mets sous TS ?
[13:15] abukhir: we are just discussing about discussions with COG
[13:15] David: i think we can work something out until you are in contact with them, we could act as a middle man if you will
[13:16] David: or at least let them know of our intent, or do you want to wait until you meet them first?
[13:16] RegentMan: I think it would be wise for BAT to meet them and chat on their own. That way, BAT can form their own opinion of them.
[13:17] abukhir: We can begin like that, but we have to meet as quicly as possible
[13:17] RegentMan: Which way is your scout moving?
[13:17] abukhir: where are they ?
[13:17] RegentMan: South of us, if I recall.
[13:17] David: SE of us
[13:17] abukhir: We think to go to the east
[13:17] abukhir: north east
[13:17] RegentMan: Well, then you won't be meeting them soon.
[13:18] abukhir: where are they ?
[13:18] abukhir: we thought at the right of the cow
[13:19] David: i am trying to find a good screenshot to look at in our forums, just a second
[13:19] abukhir: OK
[13:20] David: COG is south of us
[13:20] RegentMan: Heh, I thought I was the only one doing that. lol
[13:20] abukhir: well, we don't know exactly where you are
[13:20] RegentMan: South of you, I think.
[13:20] abukhir: We have Cheru at the south of the cow
[13:21] abukhir: but he is tired after some fights
[13:21] David: ah! well if you find where we are first, and we can give directions, then not only can you find cog, but we will have a path for our future trade route
[13:21] David: where is the cow at?
[13:21] abukhir: At the east of the first meeting point (with Cheru
[13:22] *** sirhill1969@hotmail.fr (Sir) has joined the conversation.
[13:23] abukhir: SirHill is coming, one of BAT member
[13:23] David: hello!
[13:23] RegentMan: Bonjour.
[13:23] Sir: Hello everybody
[13:23] Sir: nice to meet you
[13:24] abukhir: Did you find the cow ?
[13:24] Sir: it is just behind the tail
[13:24] RegentMan: I think we did.
[13:24] abukhir: I think it's between our towns
[13:24] RegentMan: Do you have bronze working yet?
[13:25] abukhir: Next turn
[13:25] RegentMan: Is the cow on a tile that acts as an isthmus (a small stretch of land)?
[13:26] abukhir: Yes, I think you got it !
[13:26] RegentMan: Woot!
[13:26] abukhir: But there is a lot of isthmus...
[13:26] RegentMan: lol
[13:26] David: but only one with a cow
[13:26] abukhir: So We have Lud just next to cow
[13:26] RegentMan: If you see copper NE, E of it, then we're talking about the same one.
[13:27] abukhir: and Cherudek south of it
[13:27] David: go south on the chunk of land to the right of the cow, go south and it will lead you to us
[13:27] abukhir: And COG is south of you ?
[13:27] David: yes
[13:28] RegentMan: Our borders block off the direct path, though.
[13:28] abukhir: So maybe Cherudek, that will go in 5 turns will be quiker there
[13:28] David: i think we can grant them border passing rights for this
[13:28] RegentMan: Writing, anyone?
[13:29] RegentMan: We need that for open borders.
[13:29] David: if they pass through it will it automatically declare war?
[13:29] RegentMan: But there might be another route.
[13:29] RegentMan: Yes.
[13:29] David: oh goodness, we will just have to make peace right away
[13:30] RegentMan: To the left of our city is yet another possible isthumus.
[13:30] RegentMan: I'm pretty sure that's against the rules.
[13:30] abukhir: We are going to search "élevage" (we are searching in english...)
[13:30] RegentMan: Leverage? My guess...
[13:30] abukhir: sheaperling ?
[13:31] David: farming
[13:31] abukhir: that discover horses
[13:31] abukhir: ok, farming
[13:31] RegentMan: Animal husbandry.
[13:31] David: oh, animal husbandry
[13:31] abukhir: ok for animal husbandry
[13:31] abukhir: after that we can go directly to writing
[13:32] RegentMan: How many turns do you expect it to take?
[13:32] David: this is a good point to start talking about the technologies
[13:32] RegentMan: The sooner we get to alphabet, the better.
[13:32] abukhir: It's clear !
[13:32] abukhir: but the way is long
[13:33] abukhir: we have great discussions about time to find alphabet
[13:33] abukhir: we think it would be quicker if we meet other teams...
[13:33] RegentMan: How so? I didn't think discovery reduced research times.
[13:34] abukhir: if another team has this science, you need less science points
[13:34] RegentMan: Civ III, yes. Civ IV ???
[13:34] RegentMan: Hmm, okay.
[13:34] abukhir: yes on civ IV...
[13:34] holocanthe: civ 4 too
[13:36] abukhir: we have an estimation : we should find around turn 60 or 65 the alphabet
[13:36] abukhir: it's not yet clear
[13:36] David: so in about 30 turns
[13:36] RegentMan: Well, at least you have an estimation.
[13:36] abukhir: around that, yes
[13:36] abukhir: but it's very difficult to estimate clearly
[13:37] David: of cource, i think we need to decide which is more important first, you meeting cog or us trading techs
[13:38] abukhir: well, the 2 will go together (writing is just before alphabet)
[13:38] RegentMan: True.
[13:38] RegentMan: Open borders will allow them to definetly meet COG.
[13:38] RegentMan: But I'm certain there's another way to them, to our east.
[13:38] abukhir: And for their part, where are they going, on research ?
[13:39] abukhir: do you have an idea ?
[13:39] abukhir: And for you ? lol
[13:39] David: last i checked they did not talk to us about it
[13:39] RegentMan: They are going for the wheel.
[13:39] David: well there you ahve it
[13:40] RegentMan: COG is also building a settler in their capital right now.
[13:40] abukhir: Wow, have they a worker ??
[13:41] RegentMan: We don't think so.
[13:41] abukhir: it's a quick beginning...
[13:41] abukhir: or they would be at 1 in population
[13:41] RegentMan: Maybe they don't have copper and are freaking out.
[13:42] abukhir: Where are you for iron working
[13:42] RegentMan: As you know, we just finished sailing. We were planning on grabbing agriculture, then iron working.
[13:42] David: we are going for agriculture first, then iw after
[13:43] abukhir: So it would be when ?
[13:43] abukhir: just to have an idea
[13:43] David: 5 for agri, and about 20 after that for iw
[13:43] abukhir: well, it would be around the same...
[13:43] abukhir: maybe a bit late for us...
[13:44] RegentMan: We can take the time to get our tech swaps taken care of. Are we going to do a straight swap once you have alphabet?
[13:44] David: or are we going to work it out so we trade the same amount of beakers?
[13:45] abukhir: I think, yes !
[13:45] abukhir: yes to the exchange quickly
[13:45] RegentMan: Because I see us being much more successful if we just gift each other the techs as soon as we research them.
[13:45] abukhir: we are ok for that
[13:46] David: I agree with, RegentMan, but we should talk to our other team mates about that first
[13:46] RegentMan: Of course, it's just my opinion. Some on our team want to trade beaker for beaker.
[13:46] RegentMan: So yes, a team discussion is necessary.
[13:46] abukhir: Of course, the same for us
[13:47] abukhir: but the principle would be to exchange when we have a new tech
[13:47] abukhir: and to have discussions to search well...
[13:47] RegentMan: We would have to plan our routes to make sure one party isn't researching all of the expensive techs.
[13:47] abukhir: But without any other trading with other team (not in the alliance)
[13:48] abukhir: For semi-final, the important point is to go to final game...
[13:48] RegentMan: Indeed.
[13:48] RegentMan: Four others must die.
[13:49] Sir: yeah all the bad ones !
[13:49] abukhir: So I think you should begin discussions with COG and see what they are searching, and just see if it's compatible with our ideas
[13:50] abukhir: if it's ok, we try to meet them and after that find a cooperation possible
[13:51] RegentMan: Sounds good.
[13:51] David: we will pass on the message, I am sure they will be interested
[13:52] abukhir: We think also to exchange ressources with money
[13:52] abukhir: or another tech...
[13:53] David: that can work as well, we can deal with that on a case by case basis
[13:53] abukhir: We found good shells in water near our city...
[13:54] abukhir: Hard to open, but very good !
[13:54] RegentMan: Lucky. Our shells pinch back.
[13:54] abukhir: ouch
[13:55] abukhir: We will have enough to exchange with you
[13:55] RegentMan: That's good. It'll make trading interesting.
[13:56] abukhir: Do you have something that will be possible to trade later ?
[13:57] RegentMan: I think we
[13:57] RegentMan: have an abundance of crabs.
[13:57] abukhir: lol
[13:58] RegentMan: Heh, I pushed the wrong button...
[13:58] abukhir: We'll just have to put towns at good places
[13:58] RegentMan: So you can see why we need health resources...
[13:58] David: booo
[13:58] abukhir: With copper we will attack this monsters !
[13:59] RegentMan: But don't hurt too many of them! They are a tasty bunch.
[13:59] abukhir: better without their pinch
[13:59] Sir: The only good crabs are dead crabs !
[14:00] RegentMan: Just kill four bad things...
[14:00] abukhir: lol
[14:00] RegentMan: Well, if you don't have any shellfish attack problems, I think we've covered everything.
[14:01] abukhir: lol it's ok for us
[14:01] Sir: we could also exchange swimming suits ...
[14:01] RegentMan: But we lack the swimming suit tech...
[14:01] Sir: lol
[14:02] abukhir: we will do with shell, and call you if they are hard to eat