gr8ful wes
Deity
Look on the bright side Doc.:
He hasn't changed in months.
He hasn't changed in months.
Bowling for Columbine
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MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Yeah, your probably right. But when you look at the wider world having a form of neurotic compulsive disorder isn't really that bad.
That's not true, I changed yesterday. I even had a shower.
gr8ful wes
Deity
Mr president, stay exactly as you are.
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Isn't that what they say to the wise-cracking soldier just before he gets his head blown off?
HotDog Fish
Leftist Loyalist
I have yet to meet any solider who was ever addressed as Mr. President, If I ever find out where you live, remind me I owe you a goat for all the well timed humour you bring into a normally bleak, angry, loud and bizzare forum! But back on topic, Michael Moore is not the Pat Buchanan of the left but umm...uhh....hmm....you know what? I can't think of any funny Republican authors and directors! But I'm sure young sharpe will give us a link to one! Then again I hardly ever see sharpe type a post not pertaining to politcs, hmmm... maybe he's a robot! If he was we could back a sitcom about this forum!
I'm 10 days older than you are, HotDog. Calling me "young" is kind of...misleading, to say the least.
Second, what does being an author or director matter to politics? Between Moore's flimsy rhetoric and the actual character displayed by people like George Bush, some liberals still wonder why they had lost.
Second, what does being an author or director matter to politics? Between Moore's flimsy rhetoric and the actual character displayed by people like George Bush, some liberals still wonder why they had lost.
HotDog Fish
Leftist Loyalist
I know you're older but compared to everybody else we're not that old. Being an author and/or director has nothing to do what I was talking about the subject of humour, there are not manhy right wing humourists. George Bush's character has nothing to do with what I stated before. But I digress....what exactly you mean by liberals having 'lost'? If you mean by the US elections I highly doubt the entire planet is completely and utterly dicated by US politcs
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
The least would be to say nothing at all.
How about Paul Shanklin? He writes and sings song parodies for Rush Limbaugh. He's got a few albums out.
Sorry, but the U.S. basically does dominate world politics, at least in the international sector.
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
I'm not laughing at the idea of the sentence but the way you have constructed it. I hope you intended it that way otherwise this could be called an insult.It isn't intended as anything of the sort. Fact is, if the Egyptians don't like something, nobody really cares, except for some of the Egyptians. When the U.S. does something, everyone pays attention.
allan2
Gone Fishing
I'm going to be a little facetious here, but right now anyway, replace "the U.S." with "Iraq" in that last sentence (or "Israel" for that matter), and the sentence would still be true, wouldn't it?
But as far as DOMESTIC politics goes, each country still goes about its business as it will, and while leftism is waning in the US (but is far from dead), it isn't necessarily in a lot of other places. And Moore's latest anti-gun babbling (no, I haven't seen the movie, I've heard about it from one of my leftist friends, but I have no interest in seeing it because I've heard all the arguments a thousand times) IS a DOMESTIC issue.
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
It would also work if you replaced "the US" with "giant radioactive killer monkey."
allan2
Gone Fishing
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Bowling for Columbine just (was not just that second but you get the idea) broke the record for highest opening week for a documentary in the UK taking £157,898 at the box office. This places it at number 10 in the UK film chart. And is even more impressive when you see that it only shown on 28 screens nationwide compared with number 9 (My Big Fat Greek Wedding) which was shown on 219 screens. It just goes to show you how much we Brits like a good old America-bashing film.
tcjsavannah
Wow, it's been a while...
I saw one of those fluff "People in the News" pieces on Michael Moore a couple of weeks ago. The best part was when his book "Stupid White Men" wasn't going to be released after 9/11, so he went on a book reading tour and a bunch of librarians started writing email to the publisher demanding the book be released. He got a call from the publisher saying, "Ok, what did you do to piss off the librarians??"
So remember - don't piss off the librarians!
(spoken from someone who's married to one)
So remember - don't piss off the librarians!
(spoken from someone who's married to one)
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Maybe it was because they kept having to shush him during his book reading.
Sparrowhawk
The Builder
I saw 'Bowling for Columbine' several weeks ago. Moore makes some good points, but he gets confused as to what he is arguing.
I was horrified/amused at the american attitude towards guns. As a Canadian, I had no idea. Buying a gun at the bank? WTF?! And why exactly do you need to be able to buy assault weapons? And his analysis of America as a culture of fear was quite accurate, in my opinion.
But there are numerous inconsistencies and hypocricies. For example, Moore condemns the American 'culture of fear' - but he makes a movie about how we should all be afraid of guns. More than a few of his facts are twisted. He makes Canada seem like a very peaceful place, with no gun murders. It's not quite like that. We've had multiple shootings and gun murders just here in Edmonton this year, and every year past. The Ontario 'ghetto' he chose was a farce - maybe he should try walking down east hastings street in Vancouver. He also doesn't mention the Taber, Alberta high school shooting. His cartoon history of america is not exactly balanced, though I didn't notice anything actually incorrect. His slideshow of facts (Afghanistan, etc...) is an interesting but warped interpretation of those 'facts' on occasion. Finally, his arguments re: guns and poverty are confused. He states that America's gun murder problem is not caused by poverty, since Canada also has poverty and guns - but then spends the last half of the movie showing how poverty in fact does cause gun violence.
I was horrified/amused at the american attitude towards guns. As a Canadian, I had no idea. Buying a gun at the bank? WTF?! And why exactly do you need to be able to buy assault weapons? And his analysis of America as a culture of fear was quite accurate, in my opinion.
But there are numerous inconsistencies and hypocricies. For example, Moore condemns the American 'culture of fear' - but he makes a movie about how we should all be afraid of guns. More than a few of his facts are twisted. He makes Canada seem like a very peaceful place, with no gun murders. It's not quite like that. We've had multiple shootings and gun murders just here in Edmonton this year, and every year past. The Ontario 'ghetto' he chose was a farce - maybe he should try walking down east hastings street in Vancouver. He also doesn't mention the Taber, Alberta high school shooting. His cartoon history of america is not exactly balanced, though I didn't notice anything actually incorrect. His slideshow of facts (Afghanistan, etc...) is an interesting but warped interpretation of those 'facts' on occasion. Finally, his arguments re: guns and poverty are confused. He states that America's gun murder problem is not caused by poverty, since Canada also has poverty and guns - but then spends the last half of the movie showing how poverty in fact does cause gun violence.
Logain
Asha'man
I saw it tonight. Very funny. He does make some good points but I would have to agree with Sparrowhawk that his arguments are kind of confused. Lastly I loved his interview with Charlton Heston! 
EdwardTking
Deity
I bought Michael Moore's book "Stupid White Men".
It is a mixed breakfast; some bits entertaining and
providing insight; other bits stressing his ignorance
and his self importance.
He'd write much better if he put his ego on hold.
It is a mixed breakfast; some bits entertaining and
providing insight; other bits stressing his ignorance
and his self importance.
He'd write much better if he put his ego on hold.
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