C2C- Resources Discussion and Ideas

GiuseppeIII · Sep 7, 2013

Would it be possible to make multiple resources per tile. This would eliminate the limit to the amount of map resources. The only problem I can see with this would be how would you require both resources. Would you have to make multiple improvements, would you have to pick what resource you like more, or would one improvent give both resources.

Hydromancerx · Sep 7, 2013

GiuseppeIII said:
Would it be possible to make multiple resources per tile. This would eliminate the limit to the amount of map resources. The only problem I can see with this would be how would you require both resources. Would you have to make multiple improvements, would you have to pick what resource you like more, or would one improvent give both resources.

For a time we sort of had this when some resources (ex. Coconuts) were terrain features. One had to decide if they wanted to collect the resource or the terrain feature. I could see the same problem happening with double resources.

Faustmouse · Sep 7, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
For a time we sort of had this when some resources (ex. Coconuts) were terrain features. One had to decide if they wanted to collect the resource or the terrain feature. I could see the same problem happening with double resources.

Well this could work with metals/minerals, animals and crops. You could have both, Deer and Elephants on the same plot, which is likely in nature. A Hunting Camp would give both. Same goes for Minarals with a Mine, Stones, Marble, Obsidian... with a Quarry, different animals in a Pasture or different crops on a Farm.

Pajpak · Sep 7, 2013

It makes me wonder: is it possible to unconsciously use Great Farmer to place a resource on a resource you haven't discovered yet? (like oil or uranium or other "modern" resources)

Faustmouse · Sep 7, 2013

Pajpak said:
It makes me wonder: is it possible to unconsciously use Great Farmer to place a resource on a resource you haven't discovered yet? (like oil or uranium or other "modern" resources)

No. You can "plant" new resources only on "empty" spots. This way you can use the Great farmer to explore where are hidden resources.

Azurian · Sep 25, 2013

Removed.
Adding to Addon.

Dancing Hoskuld · Sep 25, 2013

MrAzure said:
Here is a list of Natural Resources I am surprised we don't have

Part of the problem is that the maps are to small for the number of resources. That is why some are done differently eg as Hydro's buildings eg Zinc. Others like reptiles are handled with the Myth and Enclosure buildings. Others like coral, kelp and sea grass are terrain features.

We did discuss having the map resource as the generic plant for example and then let people build/develop the various strains eg Citrus as the map resource then let nations develop the Orange, Lemon, Lime etc as National or Global wonders that provide a number of them for trade. That causes problems with the wonder limit especially if we limit the building to climates. Actually we are now skilled enough in XML to allow a nation to build a single Orange building that provides a number of orange resource with out it having to be a national wonder.

Azurian · Sep 25, 2013

The elements and Noble gasses are the only ones I really care about, and those can be Manufactured Goods.

For the others I was thinking we could pretend to have them imported by barter/trade or be manufactured.

Almost every vegetable was domesticated from its wild variety so we don't have to have them on the map.

Example:
Avocado Farm
Requires Seed Shop and Barter Post.

Gives 1 Avocado (Manufactured Good).

Edit: Your idea sounds good too.

I'm sure Hydro will think of something lol. I need those Elements for space parts.

Hydromancerx · Sep 25, 2013

@MrAzure

Much of those are at least represented as a building though. See resource vicinity combos.

Example ...

Avocado Farm = Corn + Lemons resources in city vicinity.

Note that the Avocado Farm gives 1 Fruit resource.

Have another list of stuff ...

Spoiler :

Note I still add some more from time to time since these are my favorite buildings to make.

Azurian · Sep 26, 2013

Removed.
Adding to Modmod.

LumenAngel · Sep 26, 2013

I m agree with more combo,! Rabbit + Guinea Pig -> Hamster! Prime Timber + Fossils -> Petrified wood! Poultry + Kangooroo -> Dodo! Fish + Gold -> goldfish!

Dancing Hoskuld · Sep 26, 2013

Except I can't get Guinea Pigs to appear on random maps

Hydromancerx · Sep 26, 2013

Sodium Mine
Calcium Mine
Silicon Mine

These are covered ...

- Salt Quarry
- Chalk Pit
- Sand Pit (3 types)

As for the plants many of those are already listed. Not sure why you listed them again.

Here are the ones you listed I already have.

Bark
Sassafras - (Was on my todo list)

Leaves
Myrrh

Decorative Flowers
Iris

Culinary Fruits
Carambola/Starfruit (I thought I had this)
Cherimoya
Dragonfruit (Named as Pitaya)
Longan
Grapefruit
Lemon
Tangerine

Culinary vegetables
Leek
Yams
Wasabi
Beetroot (As Beets)
Turnips
Ivy gourd (on my todolist as bottle gourd)
Peas

Root Vegetables
Yams
Cassava (I thought I had this)
Taro

LumenAngel said:
I m agree with more combo,! Rabbit + Guinea Pig -> Hamster! Prime Timber + Fossils -> Petrified wood! Poultry + Kangooroo -> Dodo! Fish + Gold -> goldfish!

Currently its ...

Hamster Breeder = Guinea Pigs + Corn

Dig Site (Petrified Wood) = Fossils + Prime Timber

No Dodo yet.

No goldfish yet.

Azurian · Sep 26, 2013

Sodium was isolated for the first time in 1807. Salt Quarry is way before that time.

Silicon was isolated in pure form for the first time in 1823.

Calcium was first isolated in 1808.

Thats why they belong at Geology.

I didnt see thosr fruits and veggies les in your HAND readme.

Hydromancerx · Sep 26, 2013

MrAzure said:
Sodium was isolated for the first time in 1807. Salt Quarry is way before that time.

Silicon was prepares in pure form for the first time in 1823.

You asking the wrong questions. For instance one doesn't mine for aluminum but instead mines for Bauxite Ore. The processing of the minerals is what becomes those isolated elements.

To get Silicon you process "Silica" (aka Sand).

Hydromancerx · Sep 26, 2013

Lets look at another ... Beryllium Mine

.Because any beryllium synthesized in stars is short-lived, it is a relatively rare element in both the universe and in the crust of the Earth. It is a divalent element which occurs naturally only in combination with other elements in minerals. Notable gemstones which contain beryllium include beryl (aquamarine, emerald) and chrysoberyl. As a free element it is a steel-gray, strong, lightweight and brittle alkaline earth metal.

Note we already have an Emerald Mine. I would like to add an aquamarine mine and a Chrysoberyl Mine seems like it would be good to have as well. But there cannot be a "Beryllium Mine".

Azurian · Sep 26, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
You asking the wrong questions. For instance one doesn't mine for aluminum but instead mines for Bauxite Ore. The processing of the minerals is what becomes those isolated elements.

To get Silicon you process "Silica" (aka Sand).

Oh I understand, I was going with the discovery of the element, not the source of the element.

Azurian · Sep 26, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
Lets look at another ... Beryllium Mine

Note we already have an Emerald Mine. I would like to add an aquamarine mine and a Chrysoberyl Mine seems like it would be good to have as well. But there cannot be a "Beryllium Mine".

Sounds good to add both ,as long as its composed of Beryllium thats all that matters.

Hydromancerx · Sep 26, 2013

Note that we probably should not have a Lithium Mine like we do now. However I am not sure what I want to do about it.

Azurian · Sep 26, 2013

Hydromancerx said:
Note that we probably should not have a Lithium Mine like we do now. However I am not sure what to have in its place.

I agree, its should be combined to a Rare Earths Mine.

Im happy, out of the 100+ flowers, fruits,and veggies only about 20 were dupicates.

Okay, how do we handle the Noble Gases?

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