Vanadorn
Motorcycling Paladin
The testimony just ended. 3 hours long.
Did you watch it, what was your views and opinions?
Did you watch it, what was your views and opinions?
Condoleezza Rice Testimony
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KaNick
Deity
Here is a basic outline of how it went.
Rebublicans asked easy questions and Rice answered quickly.
Democrats asked hard questions and Rice avoids the question and/or filibusters.
Not once did Rice admit mistake or apologise for anything, even in an offhand halfhearted way.
Rebublicans asked easy questions and Rice answered quickly.
Democrats asked hard questions and Rice avoids the question and/or filibusters.
Not once did Rice admit mistake or apologise for anything, even in an offhand halfhearted way.
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Richard Ben-Veniste seemed more interested in making the White House look bad than to get to the actual reasons for what happened. As well, how does Ben-Veniste expect an answer if he talks over Rice? I just wish Rice responded a little more harshly to his inane moaning.
CurtSibling
ENEMY ACE™
This will end the same way as the UK Hutton report.
"Did you lie to UK public, Mr Bliar?"
"Erm...Of course not!"
"OK...Case closed!"
"Did you lie to UK public, Mr Bliar?"
"Erm...Of course not!"
"OK...Case closed!"
KaNick
Deity
What are you talking about? They were just trying to get in some questions, I would do the same thing if someone used 3+ minutes just to avoid most of my questions.
Vanadorn
Motorcycling Paladin
I found her to be very supportive/defensinve of the president and this adminstration, however, support does not mean her answers were full of meaning and substance.
On many issues, I found her to be attempting to sow confusion and defray inspection of key issues (just about everything regarding Mr. Clark), and she said on many times that pre 9-11, that there was no way of knowing what was coming and how there was (and still is) little cross communication between the gov't agencies.
It was auspicious to have a presidential security advisor testify in public under oath, but I truly didn't expect to learn anything new.
My 2 cents
On many issues, I found her to be attempting to sow confusion and defray inspection of key issues (just about everything regarding Mr. Clark), and she said on many times that pre 9-11, that there was no way of knowing what was coming and how there was (and still is) little cross communication between the gov't agencies.
It was auspicious to have a presidential security advisor testify in public under oath, but I truly didn't expect to learn anything new.
My 2 cents
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Apologize for what?
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Let's try it on you.
Yes or no, did the Clinton administration drop the ball on al-Qaeda?
KaNick
Deity
For making mistakes. I took this strait from her testimony that she was incompetent.
KaNick
Deity
Yes. And the people responsible should apologize.
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
It sounds to me like you're more interested in partisan politics than the actual issue at hand. Let's look at it the other way, I haven't seen anyone pressing Richard Clarke to apologize for being such a screwup for over a decade.
If I was Ben-Veniste, you wouldn't have gotten that last sentence in, much less the original "Yes."
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
As well, I'd also like to know where this Mr. Clarke agained all of his credibility from. It seems like partisan media outlets and his election-year exploit book seems to be the only backbone he has.
I'd say the testimony of Dr. Rice is far more credible than the suspect credentials of Mr. Clarke.
I'd say the testimony of Dr. Rice is far more credible than the suspect credentials of Mr. Clarke.
KaNick
Deity
I believe that he already has apologized.
Who cares if I edited my post, the point still stands. Everyone who was resposible for not stoping this should at least apologize. How does my editing my post change that? You assume that I am toing the party line, that is incorrect. I don't care for either of the major parties.
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Everyone who was not responsible for stopping 9-11 should apologize?
Well, I'm sorry. Now you too say you're sorry.
Well, I'm sorry. Now you too say you're sorry.
KaNick
Deity
I don't understand where you are getting this from. I don't remember saying people who were NOT responsible should apologize. Unless you are trying to be clever by saying the Bush Administration has no responsiblity for the mistakes made. Who is being partisan now?
I was never in a position so that I could stop anything. Why should I apologize.
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Of course the Bush administration shares responsibility in the errors leading up to 9-11, but this administration certainly shouldn't have to apologize for it happening.
FDR didn't apologize for Pearl Harbor.
FDR didn't apologize for Pearl Harbor.
KaNick
Deity
He never had intelligence saying that a Japanese air attack was on the way.
Zarn
Le Républicain Catholique
There are conspiracy theories on both administrations. You are being partisan, again.
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
Actually, there was information indicating that there was an unspecified impending attack from Japan, much like the very foggy reports on Al-Qaeda pre-September 11th.
