Condolences

[BCLG100]

To Refugees

Please remember that there is a rule that states that NO SPOILER INFO be given to the New Team.

This means that only information that was already totally known by the new team can be discussed from a TNT perspective.

We have already had this discussion in the private forum before it closed. RM emphasised the rules.

 

[Tubby Rower]

To Refugees

Please remember that there is a rule that states that NO SPOILER INFO be given to the New Team.

This means that only information that was already totally known by the new team can be discussed from a TNT perspective.

Your not scared that MIA's backstabbing will be revealed are you Irongold

 

[fe3333au]

History will be the ultimate proof to any backstabbery in the game and it will show that MIA have played the game with honour to written contracts

 

[azzaman333]

Your not scared that MIA's backstabbing will be revealed are you Irongold

No, he's worried that the rest of MIA will find out what is happening with these missing wine shipments.

 

[fe3333au]

Damn that Robi_D and his interview technique of getting the subject pissed before questions are asked

 

[classical_hero]

We have already had this discussion in the private forum before it closed. RM emphasised the rules.

We are a cultured people here at MIA. Is it no surprise that we are the only nation never to have tasted war because we will never go down to the level of savages such as every other nation so far. Only savages will backstab people, and we are way above that.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Ok then I won't go into the tech deals that you did to get into the MA. You didn't necessarily break a treaty but you did convert it into rubber and bend and stretch it quite extensively. It'll be our little secret.

 

[Robi D]

Damn that Robi_D and his interview technique of getting the subject pissed before questions are asked

Hey, now hold on there, you got pissed all by yourself

 

[Daghdha]

We are a cultured people here at MIA. Is it no surprise that we are the only nation never to have tasted war because we will never go down to the level of savages such as every other nation so far. Only savages will backstab people, and we are way above that.

Imagine if you will that you are back in 6 BC when it was fashionable to wear your bedclothes out for a day. A philosopher from Crete named CH is completely and utterly not at all contented with his fellow citizens and exclaims 'All Cretans are liars!'. This is an interesting statement, coming from a Cretan because:

If CH's statement is true, then he is a liar and hence his statement is false. A contradiction.

If CH's statement is false, then it would be possible to pop your sandals on and sail over to Crete to find a Cretan who sometimes tells the truth.

Because CH didn't contradict himself in the second case (when he was lying), the statement 'All Cretans are liars' coming from a Cretan implies that there is at least one Cretan who isn't a liar. Note that, 'not all apples are green' is the same as 'there exists an apple that isn't green'.

OK. So lets refine his statement a little. Suppose CH had said 'I am a liar':

If his statement is true, then he is lying and hence his statement is false. A contradiction.

If his statement is false, then he isn't a liar and sometimes tells the truth. This merely happens to be an example where he is lying. No contradiction.

So, if someone proclaims that they are a liar, it means that they sometimes tell the truth.

Now, ancient Greeks being ancient Greeks, took this one step further. Fe3333 living in 4 BC decided to say 'I am lying'. Since we have a little tradition going:

If Fe3333's statement was true, then he is lying when he says 'I am lying' and so he isn't, ie his statement is false.

If his statement is false, then he isn't lying when he tells us he is, and so his statement is true.

This is known as the Liar's Paradox. It was completely generalised in 14 AD by a Celt philosopher named Beorn who wrote;

All statements on this page are false.
... on an otherwise blank page. Beorn also owned a donkey named Kutzov which starved to death while standing in between two identical bales of hay unable to choose one over the other.

 

[fe3333au]

me thinks you have tasted too much of the dream fungus oh sage.

Good to see you back matey

 

[classical_hero]

Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. FREEDOM.

 

[azzaman333]

me thinks you have tasted too much of the dream fungus oh sage.

Can i have some dream fungus?

 

[Daghdha]

Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. FREEDOM.

Quite right, but who invaded who here . Anyways, we will out-invade you in due time, meanwhile you guys

 

[Robi D]

Let see now, TNT attacks us without warning starting the 1st war of our continent. TNT are eventually crushed and their leadership flee to MIA, who a short time afterwards attack without warning starting the 1st war on that continent. Coincidence... I think not !

 

[fe3333au]

Maybe we just wanted our refugees to feel at home

 

[azzaman333]

Maybe we just wanted our refugees to feel at home

Or...

Spoiler :

They got fe drunk and convinced him to pick a random civ to war with. Either way its all fe's fault

 

[Tubby Rower]

a bunch of heresy I say... Peaceful my Provo. MIA is full of oportunistic war-mongers

 

[classical_hero]

Let's just say that we have introduced a new level on intelligence to art of war. Yes MIA have made it an art form and one worthy of Sun Tzu's praise.

 

[gbno1fan]

Let's just say that we have introduced a new level on intelligence to art of war. Yes MIA have made it an art form and one worthy of Sun Tzu's praise

Hear, Hear! Sun Tzu and Clausewitz!

 

[fe3333au]

This is NOT <hic> an Official Leak to the UN Press

Spoiler :

Title ... We Declare

To the Government of KISS
... or those members who are currently sober.

An investigation was held concerning the actions of the boorish scoutsout, who after drugging the virtuous and fair Matilda Nefearius (favoured cousin of Feaurius III Foreign Minister of MIA) with the Fin of a Mickey, brutally did take her maidenhood and left her battered and bloodied in a muddy ditch.

During the inquiry numerous similar cases were also reported by womenfolk from all over MIA who had also been treated in a similar manner.

Therefore, it has been decided with a unanimous vote of the MIA Senate that the only action available to us, which will fully address these foul deeds is to declare war on the foul KISSer Nation.

Our next action will be equally brutal and with steel.


Open the Spoiler for a Special Message from our Military

Spoiler :

For your listening pleasure the more kultured of MIA have composed and performed this piece for your pleasure ... it is titled appropriately, The KISS FUNERAL DIRGE

Your antics will live long in our memory ...


MIA Government and Citizens.

Oh and PS.
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Just shows the 'real' reason for our action ... and clearly shows who provo-oked who