It was never forgotten in time or abandoned. It was still used for the coronation of the imp. aug. for a long time and was visited by most of them regularly. Most medieval imp. aug. didn't not have something that could be called preferred city or capitol, and Barbarossa was one of them. So Aachen is a bit of a stretch (but better than 'Barbarossa's court', right?), but it is still the most plausible for him. It's true that Charlemagne spend a lot of his time in his later life in the Kaiserpfalz in Aachen that he built. But he also built Kaiserpfalzen in Ingelheim and newly conquered Paderborn that were of quite some importance. If you look at Aachen even today, the Kaiserpfalz is still visible in the city layout. It is, for a variety of reasons, nearly completely built over though. Charlemagne's throne (and the incredible building surrounding it) are still there.
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Napoleon would have to be Paris, but when adding Napoleon they could move Catherine elsewhere. I think her court might not have been in Paris?
Exactly.
The name of the UA is actually a reason to disallow Meiji as a leader. What on earth would you call his ability?!
And the Meiji Restoration ability doesn't result in gameplay that is directly opposed to gameplay Tokugawa would create, so what's the problem? If the concern is flavor, then it just represents the two periods of Japan.
You mean from Beijing, known as Dadu to the Mongols? I think, since there are so few candidates for Mongol leaders, they'd be more likely to have him lead Mongolia from Dadu, with Genghis from Karakorum. Was Karakorum even built yet during Genghis' time? I don't remember.
Louis XXIV
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I don't know if I want Italy (and certainly don't want that many leaders), but associating the capital with the leader avoids some awkwardness. Lorenzo could be the leader and Florence the capital this way (Florence always could be the capital because it was the capital when the Pope controlled Rome, but it would feel incomplete).
VermelhoRed
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Sorry, but I think we'll be without him this generation
. I mean if they wanted to do him, they'd have Louis XIV with Versailles as his capital. Unless, like someone said, you could change Catherine's capital to some other city in a way that made sense, I don't know much about her to have an opinion in this matter.Yeah I'm with Atlas627 on this one. However Karakorum was built only by Ogedai, actually, and I hope now is his time to shine!
Yeah but just Lorenzo would be awkward still, imo. They need one more leader to show that each doesn't represent the whole civ.
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I hope to see Ogedei as well.
Foulweather
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I would hope there would be a way to segregate the names of Greek cities if you're playing a game with both Pericles and Gorgo, such that only the names of Delian League cities are available to Pericles, and Peloponnesian League cities to Gorgo.
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Well I guess they could add that as an option. They shouldn't do it by default because, again, that gives a very big hint that the other is in the game.
LAnkou
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Sorry, but I think we'll be without him this generation
Well, there is several castles near Tours where she had some great influence and she spend a lot of Time (Chenonceau, Chaumont, Blois,...) so Tours would be a great choice for her
Just to add to this discussion, it appears from the game files that civs have city lists independent of the leaders. For example, the top listed city for Germany is Berlin, Frederick's capital of Aachen is listed 4th, while Mecca is listed as first for Arabia, with Cairo second.
The error handling for multiples of the same City State spawning is pretty funny too. Too many Amsterdam's? Don't worry, here's 'Amsterdam 1', 'Amsterdam 2' and 'Amsterdam 3'!
If the Barbarians spawn with a city somehow, it appears they get something called 'Grokville 1'.
Whilst already known as well, it is confirmed that leaders are each given a specific capital.
The error handling for multiples of the same City State spawning is pretty funny too. Too many Amsterdam's? Don't worry, here's 'Amsterdam 1', 'Amsterdam 2' and 'Amsterdam 3'!
If the Barbarians spawn with a city somehow, it appears they get something called 'Grokville 1'.
Whilst already known as well, it is confirmed that leaders are each given a specific capital.
ales_
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Brussels is the only CS that has 5 different city names.
Zharques
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Sorry, but I think we'll be without him this generation
There could always be more than two leaders...
I'm unsure of what you're trying to say here.
ales_
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Every CS has a city list. They're identical for every CS except for Brussels.
They are all just [city state name]_# (# from 1 to 5). Brussels is no different.
ales_
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I mean the names themselves, not the XML tags.
Can you post the code where you're seeing the different names?
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so I listed out first three cities in every civilization from CityNames_Text.xml expecting the future leaders having some of them as capitals. obviously, it's barely true but...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ljMsVWOOquMsAFYlqjFi-DO7prLcyK-p6DiX1ULDB4/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ljMsVWOOquMsAFYlqjFi-DO7prLcyK-p6DiX1ULDB4/
First city listed for Germany was Berlin, not Aachen.
j51
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Why can't more than one leader use the same capital as long as they're not in the same game? In cases where there is a second leader in the same game, they could just use random city as their capital. I doubt they'd limit their leader choices based on who ruled from different cities.
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