sgrig
Comrade
Does anyone else think that the diplomatic victory is just lame, and far too easy? In order to win you don't have to make any friends with other civs, because unless you liberate them, they'll never vote for you anyway. It's all about city-states, and influence on them. I usually have a number of city-state allies throughout the game, but when I build the UN, I just buy the missing 2 or 3 votes, and that's it - guaranteed diplomatic win!
On the other hand, I can do whatever I like with other civs - declare war on them, raze their cities, etc, and none of this affects my chances of a diplomatic win.
In Civ4 you really had to work hard to make friends, and had to be really careful not to offend the civs that are your friends. Generally in Civ4 I had the feeling that I'm part of an international community - with its blocks, alliances, etc. However in Civ5 it's just a bunch of players - rather than a bunch of civilizations. So I don't get such an immersive experience, which is a shame.
On the other hand, I can do whatever I like with other civs - declare war on them, raze their cities, etc, and none of this affects my chances of a diplomatic win.
In Civ4 you really had to work hard to make friends, and had to be really careful not to offend the civs that are your friends. Generally in Civ4 I had the feeling that I'm part of an international community - with its blocks, alliances, etc. However in Civ5 it's just a bunch of players - rather than a bunch of civilizations. So I don't get such an immersive experience, which is a shame.