Elves able to clear jungle without sanitation

[Alzara]

Is this intentional? Also I've heard that you can't clear forests as an elf. Although I haven't tried, I'm wondering if this is true also?

Al

 

[Cuteunit]

FFH is elf biased if you ask me

 

[Alzara]

Lol it is a bit. But seriously, is this a bug or intentional (the chopping forests without sanitation thing)?

Al

 

[Basil II]

FFH is elf biased if you ask me

Maybe we didn't?

 

[Monkeyfinger]

I have a hard time seeing how it could be a bug...

Elven workers have a bunch of extra abilities (early jungle clearing, building improvements on forests) but are balanced out by doing every task at 80% speed.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Of course, the abilities are civ specific, not unit specific, and the malus is unit specific. Nothing beats Mud Golems captured by an elven civ.

 

[Alzara]

Ahh I c. How do u guys know all this? LOL I learn something new all the time that isn't written in manuals etc. Is there anywhere that has all of this comprehensive information?

Thanks

Al

 

[xienwolf]

I have a fairly comprehensive list under "Unit & Civ Reference Charts" in my sig. Check it out. But really, check out the entire sig, it is meant for new people to figure things out, so nothing is really useless that is linked.

 

[bc1]

The inability to clear forests is also unit based. Not much reason for it, but elves can clear forests using workers captured from other civs (I've only actually tried this with gobblins, though)

 

[Elgorath]

Elves with guardians of nature just KO everything else in game... farms with ancient forests are good, mines with ancient forests are good and cottages(towns) with ancient forest are just awesome.. my cities are size 20+ and everyone else is just 6-9 after 100-150 turns...

 

[Cuteunit]

Yeah. 3 food 1 hammer 6 coin on every tile with no happiness issues ever, so you can work every tile in the fat cross is pretty ridiculous.

 

[bc1]

Comes in handy on deity level, though... but what's even more useful with the elves are the uber-flurries under Amelanchier - with basic commando & blitz, plus mobility & haste they can kill up to 12 (weak) units per turn !

 

[CyberChrist]

I don't see why Elves should have any particular benefit from/with Jungles over other civs (as they indeed have now).

The problem is the way that the 'ignore features' ability of elves is coded - it doesn't distinguish between the various types of features at all.

 

[Epaulard]

Well, i'm playing ljosalfar actually and i can't clean jungles, even with slaves and sanitation...
My slaves are spending 8 turns chopping the jungle and then, the jungle is still here.....................................
Am i missing something?
Thanks for help

 

[CyberChrist]

Lol, I can see the AI go into an endless timewasting loop on that one.

 

[Aquilifer]

Yeah, if this is the bug I remember, then the game only forgets to black out the "Clear Jungle" button - the elven worker will spend the eight turns, but won't actually be able to clear the jungle.

 

[bc1]

What patch are you using ?

With path "F" my ljosalfar elves have actually cleared miles of jungle without sanitation

 

[Epaulard]

Thx for answer
I went to http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1 and downloaded FallfromHeaven2030.exe, patch "h" and Media Pack for 0.30

And in fact, i downloaded the patch but didn't run it
Let's clean all those damn jungles now!!!!

(elves rulez )

 

[bc1]

You might want to consider burning them, too (fire I spell). When the fire runs out on its own, a burnt forest appears -> new forest -> forest -> (with FoL) ancient forest. Buiding improvements into burnt & new forests is quicker than on forests, and can be done by all civs (bug). Note: putting out fires with the spring spell inhibits the forresting process (bug, also reported in the bug thread a while ago but no changes made AFAIK)

 

[Taels]

FoL worshippers shouldn't burn down forests to make room for farms!

OTOH, it's a clever trick.