SirPleb
Shaken, not stirred.
This thread's purpose is to find out whether people are interested in playing a reprise of GOTM19 starting from where I was in GOTM19 at 30BC.
Suggestions on how this should be structured are welcome. If there's enough interest in this then I'll consolidate suggestions and start a new thread detailing the final structure and launching the game.
My initial thoughts are:
General Structure
This will be an informal competition to see who can get the highest Jason score for a spaceship victory from the given starting point. We'll award kudos to the highest scores at the end but there won't be any formal awards, this is just for fun and to discover what is possible.
It is necessary to have PTW 1.21 to play this game because that's what was used to reach the starting position.
The regular GOTM rules of play apply.
This won't be a quick game to play. The Ottoman empire has a fair bit to do from 30BC to launch a spaceship. And more to do it with a maximum score (largest and happiest empire.)
If someone wants to play along but shoot for another victory condition, or just go for the fastest possible space victory without regard for score, that's fine. Although it isn't the primary goal here, playing for other goals from the start position could be a fun comparison. Writeups of such games will be welcomed but they won't be included in the competition for highest scoring space victory.
Reporting
When you've finished your game please join the results thread and post your story and results, treating it the same way as we post regular GOTM spoilers.
I'm not sure if we should have save games posted along with results or where they should be posted. Perhaps they could simply be uploaded to the CFC server and a link to each save be included in the final report.
Cutoff date
I'm not sure what a good finish date would be for a competition like this. June 29? July 6?
The Situation
It is the end of the year 30BC.
Our glorious Ottoman empire has become the strongest and most advanced Civilization in the world. By a small margin we are the largest and most powerful Civilization in the world. Our culture lagged behind other Civilizations in the past but we've made great strides in this area and we're now nearly on par with the world leaders in this area.
Our productivity is second to none. We are a Republic with a well established northern region centered on a Forbidden Palace at Aydin, and a developing region near the middle of the continent around our relocated Palace at Bursa.
We expect to learn the secrets of Military Tradition in 10BC. We are well ahead of all other Civilizations in science - none of them has yet learned Invention. We do not understand Monotheism nor does anyone else.
Our military consists of 40 Horsemen which can soon be upgraded to Sipahi if only we had the funds. But we have just 697g in our treasury. Most of the Horsemen are fortified in towns near our southern border.
We have not had a Golden Age yet.
The other Civilizations in the world are Carthage, Rome, Celts, Spain, India, Egypt, and China.
Carthage, Rome, and Celts are local to us. They know each other but do not have contact with the other four Civs.
Carthage shares our continent and also has a couple of towns on an island east of Rome. We have good relations with Carthage.
Rome is on a separate continent near ours. We have good relations with her too.
We have recently taken over all Celt holdings on our continent and reduced them to three towns on the Roman continent. We are still at war with the Celts.
Spain, India, Egypt, and China share another continent.
We are currently at war with India and Egypt. Spain and China are both paying us for alliances against India and Egypt. These alliances are expected to last for another 11 turns.
We have not actively participated in these wars. We don't even have a way to safely reach that continent - the trip required involves great risk to our ships.
Carthage has two Great Wonders we covet: The Pyramids and The Great Lighthouse.
Our Civilization has kept its word in all matters in the past, our reputation is clean. We have only three black marks affecting other Civs' attitude toward us, the three declarations of war we've made on other Civs. We could easily regain good relations with everyone except the Celts - we've warred too much with them to be forgiven.
Our scientists are confident that the coming YzeroK bug will be a non-issue. We're ready to face greater challenges! How should we proceed?
Additional info
If I'd been shooting for space all along in this game I might have donated a bit of tech to the remote Civs some turns back, in order to get Monotheism from one of them. As things stand you should not count on any other Civ learning Monotheism before 10 to 15 turns from now.
Note that with the Great Lighthouse, Carthage has the capability of meeting the remote Civs although she has not done so yet.
Remember that we're a Republic at this point. If going to war in Republic, remember to use the 3 tile reach of the Sipahi to reduce the effect on war weariness. (Units inside enemy territory at end of turn count toward war weariness - Sipahi can often attack from outside the enemy territory to reduce this problem.)
Suggestions on how this should be structured are welcome. If there's enough interest in this then I'll consolidate suggestions and start a new thread detailing the final structure and launching the game.
My initial thoughts are:
General Structure
This will be an informal competition to see who can get the highest Jason score for a spaceship victory from the given starting point. We'll award kudos to the highest scores at the end but there won't be any formal awards, this is just for fun and to discover what is possible.
It is necessary to have PTW 1.21 to play this game because that's what was used to reach the starting position.
The regular GOTM rules of play apply.
This won't be a quick game to play. The Ottoman empire has a fair bit to do from 30BC to launch a spaceship. And more to do it with a maximum score (largest and happiest empire.)
If someone wants to play along but shoot for another victory condition, or just go for the fastest possible space victory without regard for score, that's fine. Although it isn't the primary goal here, playing for other goals from the start position could be a fun comparison. Writeups of such games will be welcomed but they won't be included in the competition for highest scoring space victory.
Reporting
When you've finished your game please join the results thread and post your story and results, treating it the same way as we post regular GOTM spoilers.
I'm not sure if we should have save games posted along with results or where they should be posted. Perhaps they could simply be uploaded to the CFC server and a link to each save be included in the final report.
Cutoff date
I'm not sure what a good finish date would be for a competition like this. June 29? July 6?
The Situation
It is the end of the year 30BC.
Our glorious Ottoman empire has become the strongest and most advanced Civilization in the world. By a small margin we are the largest and most powerful Civilization in the world. Our culture lagged behind other Civilizations in the past but we've made great strides in this area and we're now nearly on par with the world leaders in this area.
Our productivity is second to none. We are a Republic with a well established northern region centered on a Forbidden Palace at Aydin, and a developing region near the middle of the continent around our relocated Palace at Bursa.
We expect to learn the secrets of Military Tradition in 10BC. We are well ahead of all other Civilizations in science - none of them has yet learned Invention. We do not understand Monotheism nor does anyone else.
Our military consists of 40 Horsemen which can soon be upgraded to Sipahi if only we had the funds. But we have just 697g in our treasury. Most of the Horsemen are fortified in towns near our southern border.
We have not had a Golden Age yet.
The other Civilizations in the world are Carthage, Rome, Celts, Spain, India, Egypt, and China.
Carthage, Rome, and Celts are local to us. They know each other but do not have contact with the other four Civs.
Carthage shares our continent and also has a couple of towns on an island east of Rome. We have good relations with Carthage.
Rome is on a separate continent near ours. We have good relations with her too.
We have recently taken over all Celt holdings on our continent and reduced them to three towns on the Roman continent. We are still at war with the Celts.
Spain, India, Egypt, and China share another continent.
We are currently at war with India and Egypt. Spain and China are both paying us for alliances against India and Egypt. These alliances are expected to last for another 11 turns.
We have not actively participated in these wars. We don't even have a way to safely reach that continent - the trip required involves great risk to our ships.
Carthage has two Great Wonders we covet: The Pyramids and The Great Lighthouse.
Our Civilization has kept its word in all matters in the past, our reputation is clean. We have only three black marks affecting other Civs' attitude toward us, the three declarations of war we've made on other Civs. We could easily regain good relations with everyone except the Celts - we've warred too much with them to be forgiven.
Our scientists are confident that the coming YzeroK bug will be a non-issue. We're ready to face greater challenges! How should we proceed?
Additional info
If I'd been shooting for space all along in this game I might have donated a bit of tech to the remote Civs some turns back, in order to get Monotheism from one of them. As things stand you should not count on any other Civ learning Monotheism before 10 to 15 turns from now.
Note that with the Great Lighthouse, Carthage has the capability of meeting the remote Civs although she has not done so yet.
Remember that we're a Republic at this point. If going to war in Republic, remember to use the 3 tile reach of the Sipahi to reduce the effect on war weariness. (Units inside enemy territory at end of turn count toward war weariness - Sipahi can often attack from outside the enemy territory to reduce this problem.)