SouthernKing
crickety cricket
(Mods: Please don't move this to AOG, I'd like it to stay in IOT because everyone involved in its creation is here)
Unfortunately: most of the following post is massively, massively out of date. I'll update it when I get back home in a few days.
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Github link
EU4 numbered province map: http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/c/c9/Province_ID_map.png
(Very large image)
Description will go here eventually when I have the energy to write one.
Current world map:
Current labeled world map (uses outdated map_:
Attempt to map Middle East setup onto AoW map
List of tags (under construction)
Detail of Krzowwh's China setup
Detail of Greek setup (outdated but mostly still relevant)
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OLD POST
So as I said in Argentina, I've been annoyed by the lack of major althist mods for EU4 so far, so I've decided to try my hand at creating one for myself. It'll also give me an excuse to actually play EU4. This mod will more than likely stay in planning/preliminary stages until Art of War gets released.
My idea is that this takes place in a world where Alexander the Great lived another decade or two, allowing him to consolidate his conquests into an empire - the Argean Empire - that remains stable for several centuries and become akin to OTL Rome, and ultimately slowly declines until it collapses about a millennium before 1444. My goal is to strike a nice balance between plausibility and fun (with plenty of fanservice) Here's what I have so far, with help from Cived, Reus, and NinjaCow:
-I'm going to selectively gently caress butterflies such that Christianity and Islam both still exist, mostly to make actually modding this significantly easier. However, they are both far removed from their OTL counterparts. Christianity moves east, to become the major religion of Persia and Central Asia. Islam, which is blocked by Christianity from spreading in that direction, instead moves west and into Southern and Western Europe.
-Different migrations. These include the Huns, Magyars, other Central Asian peoples, and maybe even some Slavs and a Germanic tribe or two, all migrating into China instead of Europe, and only southern China is Han Chinese anymore. Imight did throw in a Hellenized Chinese state just for Christos.
-Loads upon loads of pagans, including Hellenized Vikings (just for mech) and Norse Greeks.
-Vinland survives, and through trade and contact with the Norse, the Amerindians in the Mississippi watershed form flourishing civilizations.
Any suggestions or questions are appreciated, as I'll be the first to admit that this is quite an ambitious project. I'll try to get up some vague history and a country list as soon as possible.
Anyone who wants a fanservice country for themselves (such as the already existing Hellenic Sichuan, Scythia, or that Hellenized Norwegian country) are more than welcome to do so, as long as it makes sense.
Unfortunately: most of the following post is massively, massively out of date. I'll update it when I get back home in a few days.
---
Github link
EU4 numbered province map: http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/c/c9/Province_ID_map.png
(Very large image)
Description will go here eventually when I have the energy to write one.
Current world map:
Spoiler :
Current labeled world map (uses outdated map_:
Spoiler :
Spoiler :
1. Ierne (Hellenic Ireland)
2. Dal Raida
3. Alba
4. Bernicia
5. Rheged
6. Elmet (Muslim Britons)
7. Brython (Insular Britain)
8. Camelot (Arturia Pendragon)
9. Albiyun (Muslim Arabs)
10. ??? (Muslim merchant republic)
11. Armorica (Insular Asterix's state)
12. ??? (Quasayyad)
13. Lutetia (Muslim theocratic order)
14. Pictavia (Quasayyad)
15. Aquitania (Qusayyad)
16. ??? (Qusayyad)
17. Narbonensis (Qusayyad)
18. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
19. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
20. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
21. Massalia (Muslim pirate/merchant republic)
22. Tarraconensis
23. Lusitania
24. Tartessos (Muslim merchant republic)
25. ???
26. Italya (Muslim Rome)
27. Rome (or SPQR or whatever; Hellenic Rome)
28. Venezia
29. Istria
30. Noricum
31. Allemannia
32. Francia
33. Frisia
34. Saxony
35. Marcomannia
36. Vandalia
37. Angleland
38. Norway
39. Svealand (Norwegian vassal)
40. Sami
41. Finland
42. Estonia
43. Latvia
44. Lithuania
45. Prussia
46. Yotvingia
47. ??? (Buddhist)
48. Antea (Zoroastrian Slavs) (might be changed)
49. ???
50. Illyria (Ethiopia-analogue)
51. ???
52. Citerior (Qaiteriyur?)
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Greek HRE States:
53. Epirus
54. Macedon
55. Thracia
56. Larissa
57. Athens
58. Corinth
59. Sparta
60. Syracuse
61. Rhodes
62. Caria
63. Lesbos
64. Troy
65. Bithynia
66. Phrygia
67. Lydia
68. Taurimark (Hellenized Norwegian colony)
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69. ??? (It's in Denmark. In other words, SK can't count.)
70. Byzantium (A Christian country in a Hellenic world; starts off at war with Athens, Thracia, and a few others)
71. Scythia (Zoroasian)
72. ???
73. ???
74. Galinida
75. ??? (Norse descendents perhaps?)
76. ???
77. ???
78. Moksha (Buddhist)
79. ???
80. Slavs/Slavia?
81. Taman (Zoroastrian)
82. Colchis
83. Pontus
84. Armenia
85. Taurus (Hellenic)
86. Cappadocia (Muslim)
87. Antioch
88. Byblos
89. Tyre
90. Israel
91. Damietta?
92. Alexandria?
93. ???
94. ???
95. ???
96. Jihadist Ethiopia
97. Christian something ruling over Muslim holy sites
98. ???
99. Nabatea (no idea what religion this is)
100. Damascus
101. Palmyra
102. Assyria
103. Lakhmidia (Christian Arabs)
104. The Abba (Pope, or, the whore of actual Babylon)
105. Nineveh
106. Arbela
107. Azerbaijan
108. Ecbatana
109. Susa
110. ???
111. ???
112. ??? (Buddhist)
113. Organa (yes this is an actual name, not a pun)
114. Persia
115. Hyrcania (Persian vassal)
116. Parthia (Persian vassal with cores on a number of surrounding provinces)
117. (*maybe* a Persian vassal)
118. (Persian vassal)
119. Gedrosia
120. ???
121. Chorasmia
122. ???
123. Jaxartia (or Transoxiana but Jaxartia is a far cooler name)
124. Fergana
125. Bactria or Gandhara
126. Arachosia
127. Indica
128. Kashmir?
129. ??? (Hellenic)
130. Aorsia
131. ???
132. Dalmasca
133. ???
134. ???
135. ???
136. ???
137. Vindhya
138. Gondwana
139. ???
140. Konkan
141. ???
142. ???
143. Assaka
144. Karnataka (Mithraic)
145. Kerala (Center of the Mithraism)
146. Pandya (Mithraic)
147. Amaravati (Mithraic)
148. Kalinga (Hellenic?)
149. Magadha (Buddhist)
150. ???
151. Manipur
152. Monyul
153. Nepal
154. Tibet
155. Kashgar
156. Kucha
157. Khotan
158. Qarqan
159. Turfan
160. Testveri (Magyars)
161. Mohe (name?)
162. Tuunghai
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Chinese Hegemony (Shogunate mechanics)
163. Ping
164. Huaxia
165. Luo
166. Nei
167. Ye
168. Jiang
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169. Xie (Seres, or Christosland)
170. ??? (Ba-Shu speaking state)
171. Gyong Tsrag
172. Meng Chu
173. Min Yuet
174. Nam Yuet
175. Champa
176. Khmer Empire
177. Hellenic Indonesia (This *may* be a little too far-fetched)
178. ??? (Mithraic)
179. Chola (A Hindu Tamil empire exiled from its homeland by the Pandya, Chola also owns at least part of Lanka)
180. ??? (A powerful inland Jewish state with links eastwards as well)
181. Takrur (no idea what religion - or culture - this is)
182. Tupi
183. Iceland
184. Inuit (or something; a semi-unified tribal state that emerged after the start of the Little Ice Age forced the Vinlanders south)
185. ??? (May need renaming)
186. Markland (May need renaming)
187. Huron/Wyandot
188. Iroquois/Haudenosaunee
189. Miami (For the record, some/all of the Native American states could use renaming into their native language or something so they're not just tribe names, but I don't know close enough about Amerindian linguistics to attempt this)
190. Shawnee
191. Cherokee
192. Creek (or Muscogee)
193. Choctaw
194. Natchez
195. Chickasaw
196. Cahokia (The large empire and the strongest of the native states)
197. Peoria (repurposed Illiniwek tag)
198. Sauk
199. Fox
200. Sioux
201. Pawnee
202. Wichita
203. Caddo
204. The Pilgrims (Christian missionary order)
205. ???
206. ???
207. ???
208. ???
209. ???
210. ???
211. ???
212. ???
213. ???
214. Hadhramut
215. ???
216. Baijinzhou (Han Australia best Australia)
217. ???
218. ???
219. ???
220. ???
221. ???
222. ???
223. Yamato
224. Hata
225. Baraku
226. Mitsukoshi
227. Kuroba
228. Hinomoto
229. Hitakami
230. Carthage
231. Numidia
232. ???
233. ???
2. Dal Raida
3. Alba
4. Bernicia
5. Rheged
6. Elmet (Muslim Britons)
7. Brython (Insular Britain)
8. Camelot (Arturia Pendragon)
9. Albiyun (Muslim Arabs)
10. ??? (Muslim merchant republic)
11. Armorica (Insular Asterix's state)
12. ??? (Quasayyad)
13. Lutetia (Muslim theocratic order)
14. Pictavia (Quasayyad)
15. Aquitania (Qusayyad)
16. ??? (Qusayyad)
17. Narbonensis (Qusayyad)
18. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
19. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
20. ??? (Celtic/Muslim)
21. Massalia (Muslim pirate/merchant republic)
22. Tarraconensis
23. Lusitania
24. Tartessos (Muslim merchant republic)
25. ???
26. Italya (Muslim Rome)
27. Rome (or SPQR or whatever; Hellenic Rome)
28. Venezia
29. Istria
30. Noricum
31. Allemannia
32. Francia
33. Frisia
34. Saxony
35. Marcomannia
36. Vandalia
37. Angleland
38. Norway
39. Svealand (Norwegian vassal)
40. Sami
41. Finland
42. Estonia
43. Latvia
44. Lithuania
45. Prussia
46. Yotvingia
47. ??? (Buddhist)
48. Antea (Zoroastrian Slavs) (might be changed)
49. ???
50. Illyria (Ethiopia-analogue)
51. ???
52. Citerior (Qaiteriyur?)
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Greek HRE States:
53. Epirus
54. Macedon
55. Thracia
56. Larissa
57. Athens
58. Corinth
59. Sparta
60. Syracuse
61. Rhodes
62. Caria
63. Lesbos
64. Troy
65. Bithynia
66. Phrygia
67. Lydia
68. Taurimark (Hellenized Norwegian colony)
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69. ??? (It's in Denmark. In other words, SK can't count.)
70. Byzantium (A Christian country in a Hellenic world; starts off at war with Athens, Thracia, and a few others)
71. Scythia (Zoroasian)
72. ???
73. ???
74. Galinida
75. ??? (Norse descendents perhaps?)
76. ???
77. ???
78. Moksha (Buddhist)
79. ???
80. Slavs/Slavia?
81. Taman (Zoroastrian)
82. Colchis
83. Pontus
84. Armenia
85. Taurus (Hellenic)
86. Cappadocia (Muslim)
87. Antioch
88. Byblos
89. Tyre
90. Israel
91. Damietta?
92. Alexandria?
93. ???
94. ???
95. ???
96. Jihadist Ethiopia
97. Christian something ruling over Muslim holy sites
98. ???
99. Nabatea (no idea what religion this is)
100. Damascus
101. Palmyra
102. Assyria
103. Lakhmidia (Christian Arabs)
104. The Abba (Pope, or, the whore of actual Babylon)
105. Nineveh
106. Arbela
107. Azerbaijan
108. Ecbatana
109. Susa
110. ???
111. ???
112. ??? (Buddhist)
113. Organa (yes this is an actual name, not a pun)
114. Persia
115. Hyrcania (Persian vassal)
116. Parthia (Persian vassal with cores on a number of surrounding provinces)
117. (*maybe* a Persian vassal)
118. (Persian vassal)
119. Gedrosia
120. ???
121. Chorasmia
122. ???
123. Jaxartia (or Transoxiana but Jaxartia is a far cooler name)
124. Fergana
125. Bactria or Gandhara
126. Arachosia
127. Indica
128. Kashmir?
129. ??? (Hellenic)
130. Aorsia
131. ???
132. Dalmasca
133. ???
134. ???
135. ???
136. ???
137. Vindhya
138. Gondwana
139. ???
140. Konkan
141. ???
142. ???
143. Assaka
144. Karnataka (Mithraic)
145. Kerala (Center of the Mithraism)
146. Pandya (Mithraic)
147. Amaravati (Mithraic)
148. Kalinga (Hellenic?)
149. Magadha (Buddhist)
150. ???
151. Manipur
152. Monyul
153. Nepal
154. Tibet
155. Kashgar
156. Kucha
157. Khotan
158. Qarqan
159. Turfan
160. Testveri (Magyars)
161. Mohe (name?)
162. Tuunghai
---
Chinese Hegemony (Shogunate mechanics)
163. Ping
164. Huaxia
165. Luo
166. Nei
167. Ye
168. Jiang
---
169. Xie (Seres, or Christosland)
170. ??? (Ba-Shu speaking state)
171. Gyong Tsrag
172. Meng Chu
173. Min Yuet
174. Nam Yuet
175. Champa
176. Khmer Empire
177. Hellenic Indonesia (This *may* be a little too far-fetched)
178. ??? (Mithraic)
179. Chola (A Hindu Tamil empire exiled from its homeland by the Pandya, Chola also owns at least part of Lanka)
180. ??? (A powerful inland Jewish state with links eastwards as well)
181. Takrur (no idea what religion - or culture - this is)
182. Tupi
183. Iceland
184. Inuit (or something; a semi-unified tribal state that emerged after the start of the Little Ice Age forced the Vinlanders south)
185. ??? (May need renaming)
186. Markland (May need renaming)
187. Huron/Wyandot
188. Iroquois/Haudenosaunee
189. Miami (For the record, some/all of the Native American states could use renaming into their native language or something so they're not just tribe names, but I don't know close enough about Amerindian linguistics to attempt this)
190. Shawnee
191. Cherokee
192. Creek (or Muscogee)
193. Choctaw
194. Natchez
195. Chickasaw
196. Cahokia (The large empire and the strongest of the native states)
197. Peoria (repurposed Illiniwek tag)
198. Sauk
199. Fox
200. Sioux
201. Pawnee
202. Wichita
203. Caddo
204. The Pilgrims (Christian missionary order)
205. ???
206. ???
207. ???
208. ???
209. ???
210. ???
211. ???
212. ???
213. ???
214. Hadhramut
215. ???
216. Baijinzhou (Han Australia best Australia)
217. ???
218. ???
219. ???
220. ???
221. ???
222. ???
223. Yamato
224. Hata
225. Baraku
226. Mitsukoshi
227. Kuroba
228. Hinomoto
229. Hitakami
230. Carthage
231. Numidia
232. ???
233. ???
Attempt to map Middle East setup onto AoW map
Spoiler :
List of tags (under construction)
Detail of Krzowwh's China setup
Detail of Greek setup (outdated but mostly still relevant)
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OLD POST
So as I said in Argentina, I've been annoyed by the lack of major althist mods for EU4 so far, so I've decided to try my hand at creating one for myself. It'll also give me an excuse to actually play EU4. This mod will more than likely stay in planning/preliminary stages until Art of War gets released.
My idea is that this takes place in a world where Alexander the Great lived another decade or two, allowing him to consolidate his conquests into an empire - the Argean Empire - that remains stable for several centuries and become akin to OTL Rome, and ultimately slowly declines until it collapses about a millennium before 1444. My goal is to strike a nice balance between plausibility and fun (with plenty of fanservice) Here's what I have so far, with help from Cived, Reus, and NinjaCow:
Spoiler :
-I'm going to selectively gently caress butterflies such that Christianity and Islam both still exist, mostly to make actually modding this significantly easier. However, they are both far removed from their OTL counterparts. Christianity moves east, to become the major religion of Persia and Central Asia. Islam, which is blocked by Christianity from spreading in that direction, instead moves west and into Southern and Western Europe.
-Different migrations. These include the Huns, Magyars, other Central Asian peoples, and maybe even some Slavs and a Germanic tribe or two, all migrating into China instead of Europe, and only southern China is Han Chinese anymore. I
-Loads upon loads of pagans, including Hellenized Vikings (just for mech) and Norse Greeks.
-Vinland survives, and through trade and contact with the Norse, the Amerindians in the Mississippi watershed form flourishing civilizations.
Spoiler Requisite Soundtrack 1 :
Spoiler Requisite Soundtrack 2 :
Any suggestions or questions are appreciated, as I'll be the first to admit that this is quite an ambitious project. I'll try to get up some vague history and a country list as soon as possible.
Anyone who wants a fanservice country for themselves (such as the already existing Hellenic Sichuan, Scythia, or that Hellenized Norwegian country) are more than welcome to do so, as long as it makes sense.