lemmy101
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Just a thread to say that, despite a lot of the negativity around (and undoubtedly replying to this very post) there are plenty of us that love Civ V and all the changes and new directions you took the game in.
Not just newcomers to the series, and casual players or people too dumb to know any better. Plenty of hardcore fans that have been with Civ since Civ 1, and have played every incarnation well into the night hours. Plenty of people who only consider 'strategy games' their game genre of choice, who embraced all that each Civ had to offer, down to every dial and every button.
We don't like it because it's simple enough for our simple minds to appreciate, we like it because we see in it a new enriched set of challenges that will become the basis of new strategies and paradigms in Civ for a long time. We enjoy the game now, and can see the great potential for these as the game is patched, inspired modders take the reigns and expand your vision in new and exciting ways, and we await the first expansion with baited breath!
Sure the game has a few launch issues, and there may be little aspects of the game that appeal to us less, but the exciting new features and ideas in Civ more than make up for it. Considering the complexity of any game like Civ the bugs and issues post release are nothing to get frustrated with and there's plenty of fun to be had while we look forward to the first patch.
We content many are all here, and we applaud you. It may not seem like it, for as always those with misgivings tend to make the most noise, and drown out our voices. They're entitled to their opinion as I am mine. They are as correct as I am in their own minds, as that is how they feel about the game. As with all situations like this though the only great mistake they make is assuming their numbers are great in some united front of disappointment, lending statistical certainty and truth to their opinion, instead of all belonging to many different demographics of like and dislike spanning every feature and change in the game too complex to distil into simple terms of 'we all hate it' or 'we all love it'. For all those who love the game are too busy playing it. And there are many many many hundreds of thousands worthy of the title 'Civ Fanatics' who would never stumble on this site.
With 1UPT, hexes, and the deep combat system you have provided Civ with the one thing it has been direly lacking since the birth of the series. No matter what else happens you have made one of the most monumentally important improvements to the series it has ever had, and that is your great legacy. The haters will change their tune once the mod tools are released and they are provided with the alterations they need to satisfy them. They only get angry ultimately out of love for the series I suppose us that love Civ 5 need to remember that. It just frustrates that in a game that centres around user control via modding, where the whole point is the game can be shaped and changed to the gamer's every desire, that people cannot be more forgiving if the base-unmodded game doesn't cater perfectly to their own personal ideals of perfection.
But come a year or so down the line, this hate will have dissipated and with the wealth of mods out there, everyone will have the Civ fix that they want.
It just so happens, for a lot of us... newcomers and oldtimers alike, the Civ 5 you and the team released to us was wonderful in itself.
Look forward to seeing what comes next!
Love,
The Civ 5 fans
Not just newcomers to the series, and casual players or people too dumb to know any better. Plenty of hardcore fans that have been with Civ since Civ 1, and have played every incarnation well into the night hours. Plenty of people who only consider 'strategy games' their game genre of choice, who embraced all that each Civ had to offer, down to every dial and every button.
We don't like it because it's simple enough for our simple minds to appreciate, we like it because we see in it a new enriched set of challenges that will become the basis of new strategies and paradigms in Civ for a long time. We enjoy the game now, and can see the great potential for these as the game is patched, inspired modders take the reigns and expand your vision in new and exciting ways, and we await the first expansion with baited breath!
Sure the game has a few launch issues, and there may be little aspects of the game that appeal to us less, but the exciting new features and ideas in Civ more than make up for it. Considering the complexity of any game like Civ the bugs and issues post release are nothing to get frustrated with and there's plenty of fun to be had while we look forward to the first patch.
We content many are all here, and we applaud you. It may not seem like it, for as always those with misgivings tend to make the most noise, and drown out our voices. They're entitled to their opinion as I am mine. They are as correct as I am in their own minds, as that is how they feel about the game. As with all situations like this though the only great mistake they make is assuming their numbers are great in some united front of disappointment, lending statistical certainty and truth to their opinion, instead of all belonging to many different demographics of like and dislike spanning every feature and change in the game too complex to distil into simple terms of 'we all hate it' or 'we all love it'. For all those who love the game are too busy playing it. And there are many many many hundreds of thousands worthy of the title 'Civ Fanatics' who would never stumble on this site.
With 1UPT, hexes, and the deep combat system you have provided Civ with the one thing it has been direly lacking since the birth of the series. No matter what else happens you have made one of the most monumentally important improvements to the series it has ever had, and that is your great legacy. The haters will change their tune once the mod tools are released and they are provided with the alterations they need to satisfy them. They only get angry ultimately out of love for the series I suppose us that love Civ 5 need to remember that. It just frustrates that in a game that centres around user control via modding, where the whole point is the game can be shaped and changed to the gamer's every desire, that people cannot be more forgiving if the base-unmodded game doesn't cater perfectly to their own personal ideals of perfection.
But come a year or so down the line, this hate will have dissipated and with the wealth of mods out there, everyone will have the Civ fix that they want.
It just so happens, for a lot of us... newcomers and oldtimers alike, the Civ 5 you and the team released to us was wonderful in itself.
Look forward to seeing what comes next!
Love,
The Civ 5 fans
