happiness is acting weird for me

[Leathaface]

At times I could have (plus) 3 happiness. Then I click another couple of turns, I look at the happiness icon and it is -1 happiness all of a sudden.

The above happened in a event where I had -1 happiness, but then I connected Trunkles (sp?). I got +4 happiness, and my overall happiness went up to 3. But then 5-6 turns later it is -1, despite the resource still being OK.

I can remember one time I built the Eiffel Tower. I had 5 happiness, after the tower got built the happiness meter didn't go up to 10 happiness, it stayed the same. I thought it might have been a bug from either InfoAddict, or Diplomacy Values (a newish mod), but I am not so sure now.

 

[Box Of Tissues]

Do you have an ideology? Because "random" unhappiness can occur via public opinion, which can be viewed at the ideology tenet menu.

If your empire is content, you shouldn't have a problem, but if you are in a revolutionary wave where you can switch ideology, then you may end up with -29 unhappiness.

This happened to me when I picked Autocracy as Germany and my happiness went from 45 to 20 when other civs had greater ideological pressure because they mostly picked Order.

 

[Scott Jegg]

At times I could have (plus) 3 happiness. Then I click another couple of turns, I look at the happiness icon and it is -1 happiness all of a sudden.

The above happened in a event where I had -1 happiness, but then I connected Trunkles (sp?). I got +4 happiness, and my overall happiness went up to 3. But then 5-6 turns later it is -1, despite the resource still being OK.

I can remember one time I built the Eiffel Tower. I had 5 happiness, after the tower got built the happiness meter didn't go up to 10 happiness, it stayed the same. I thought it might have been a bug from either InfoAddict, or Diplomacy Values (a newish mod), but I am not so sure now.

Are you allied with a city state who are giving you a luxury, then you lose it when you drop from ally to friend?

Seems the most rational explanation.

 

[mcaswell64]

I'm sure I've noticed happiness go up and down since BNW for no apparent reason too. It happens mid or late game, and in games in which my ideology is the dominant one or the world ideology.

 

[SamBC]

Did your population grow?

 

[Pythakoreas]

Do you have Universal Suffrage tenet from Freedom and let AI assign the specialist slots?

 

[Yzman]

Yeah I have noticed this occasionally and I believe its specialist being reassigned, especially if you have the policy which makes specialists produce half unhappiness.

 

[joncnunn]

I'd recommend just locking the specialists you want. In addition to stopping happiness shifts from the governors hiring & firing them, it will ensure you only run the ones you want.

 

[mrwho]

This isn't really the right place to ask, but how much unhappiness to specialists actually generate?

 

[Aaron90495]

This isn't really the right place to ask, but how much unhappiness to specialists actually generate?

Regular (1) in most circumstances, but half (0.5) with a level 2 Freedom tenet.

 

[Leathaface]

I have 3 cities, I am early in the game. I've only tradition selected.

I'll check the city states.

 

[Polisurgist]

I was seeing this and it turned out to be that a neighboring civ was in a religious struggle to convert one of my cities; his religion had a follower belief that gave extra happiness for Temples, so whenever he was winning that fight, my happiness was up, then it would drop when I converted it back.

 

[joncnunn]

Regular (1) in most circumstances, but half (0.5) with a level 2 Freedom tenet.

The key here though is that on a per city level, this is rounded up. (Or at least was in Vanilla and G&K as part of the Freedom social tree; I've not yet re-confirmed for BNW as the tenet.)

e.g. Just hire one specialist in every city that had none at all, and quite a happiness boost. But the second one in the same city has no effect. The third one again raises happiness.

Note that this interacts with the Monarchy policy in the capital in a way that makes it slightly less effective there.

 

[redwings1340]

As your population increases your unhappiness will increase. From your description your cities are just growing. You can't expect happiness to stay positive forever. Early game the best ways of countering this are to get an early religion or pantheon, get luxury resources, do city state quests, and trade luxury resources 1-1 with the AI if possible.

Sorry if that sounded a little patronizing, I'm just not seeing what's different from normal in this. The eiffel tower example does seem a little weird though. It's possible an ideological pressure changed your happiness that turn, but usually building the eiffel tower does increase your happiness by a bit. I suppose a couple of cities could have grown that turn, or ideology could have set you back though.

 

[mcaswell64]

Yeah I have noticed this occasionally and I believe its specialist being reassigned, especially if you have the policy which makes specialists produce half unhappiness.

I think you're right. I usually go for that policy if I'm having happiness problems, and now that I think about it that is around the time that I notice my happiness going up and down.