Dark Paladin X
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Discuss which civilization you think it's the hardest civilization to play as and master? And which victory condition you think is the hardest victory to get?
For me, I think Venice is the hardest civilization to play as. First of all, you are literally a city-state with few extra perks and you cannot expand your borders whatsoever since you can't build any new cities (this is compensated with the Merchant of Venice where you can "deny" city states from other civilizations and make them puppets with the Merchant of Venice, but you literally have no control on what they build and may be a financial burden. It gets harder when you are trying to get the "One City to Rule Them All" achievement. And since they can only control one city, they are subjected to easy elimination by more aggressive civilizations like the Aztecs, Zulus, Greeks, France, and Japan.
Luckily I manage to win diplomatic victory as Venice AND get the "One City to Rule Them All" achievement. This is mainly because the AI I picked as opponents are those who are relatively easy to befriend (Ram Khamhaeng, Kamehameha, Hiawatha, and Gandhi). Although for one reason or another, Hiawatha AI manages to piss off Ram Khamhaeng AI to the point Ram Khamhaeng occasionally asking me to side with him and declare war on Hiawatha. Luckily, I declined his offer without any diplomatic penalty. In fact, I usually get several problems with Hiawatha when I'm trying to be friendly with every civilization in the game despite being able to befriend Hiawatha.
For victory condition, I'd say domination victory is the hardest. It's more of a high-risk/high-reward type of thing. You need to rapidly expand your borders and claim every strategic resource to get the edge over everyone else. Even so, domination victory becomes less and less relevant when World Congress comes into play and such as you will suffer a lot of diplomatic penalties and a lot of civilizations denouncing you as a warmonger and embargoing you, thus losing your gold advantage. Even if you try to mitigate the diplomatic disadvantage by befriending other AI warmongers, they still going to declare war on you anyways since they are designed to have the lowest loyalty rating. And gold and unhappiness will be the biggest issues for late game domination victory as well. And I have no idea of domination victory is easier or harder if you have "rampaging barbarians" on.
For me, I think Venice is the hardest civilization to play as. First of all, you are literally a city-state with few extra perks and you cannot expand your borders whatsoever since you can't build any new cities (this is compensated with the Merchant of Venice where you can "deny" city states from other civilizations and make them puppets with the Merchant of Venice, but you literally have no control on what they build and may be a financial burden. It gets harder when you are trying to get the "One City to Rule Them All" achievement. And since they can only control one city, they are subjected to easy elimination by more aggressive civilizations like the Aztecs, Zulus, Greeks, France, and Japan.
Luckily I manage to win diplomatic victory as Venice AND get the "One City to Rule Them All" achievement. This is mainly because the AI I picked as opponents are those who are relatively easy to befriend (Ram Khamhaeng, Kamehameha, Hiawatha, and Gandhi). Although for one reason or another, Hiawatha AI manages to piss off Ram Khamhaeng AI to the point Ram Khamhaeng occasionally asking me to side with him and declare war on Hiawatha. Luckily, I declined his offer without any diplomatic penalty. In fact, I usually get several problems with Hiawatha when I'm trying to be friendly with every civilization in the game despite being able to befriend Hiawatha.
For victory condition, I'd say domination victory is the hardest. It's more of a high-risk/high-reward type of thing. You need to rapidly expand your borders and claim every strategic resource to get the edge over everyone else. Even so, domination victory becomes less and less relevant when World Congress comes into play and such as you will suffer a lot of diplomatic penalties and a lot of civilizations denouncing you as a warmonger and embargoing you, thus losing your gold advantage. Even if you try to mitigate the diplomatic disadvantage by befriending other AI warmongers, they still going to declare war on you anyways since they are designed to have the lowest loyalty rating. And gold and unhappiness will be the biggest issues for late game domination victory as well. And I have no idea of domination victory is easier or harder if you have "rampaging barbarians" on.