Is Civ IV a Racist and Immoral Game? HA!

[thadian]

I voted yes~

I am so offended! They are anti-jewish (a jew religion but not isreal civilization? The Arabs should have been the Jews!) And those native american's are just stupid, they arent human beings, when we came over they were still trying to make tools and domesticate animals, if we didn't bring them christ they would probably be extinct by now. they dont deserve to be a civ, but i must say Poland is deserving! Lets just make a game where we go kill savages and colonize a REAL society!


Wow, that must have made me sound stupid. I wonder if any of the critics think that about their idiot radical statement. I would like an option to play as natives to resist the colonization, or as a chance to play a barbarian state which would be fun... I guess i can also complain that so many religions are excluded and that ghandi wasn't a leader and that GW Bush should replace washington and all the other stupid things ive heard.


For you true civ fanatics out there, i hope you enjoyed my mockeries of our critics! Lets just be careful not to let this game become to real to us, and make sure we dont go whipping slaves to finish our barracks so that we can rush an army of pretorians all over new york city!

 

[Yesod]

Civilization in general is full of racism. I haven't played Colonization, but...it's called Colonization. The fact you guys see no racist undertones shows that you all just take it for granted.

It's a part of you. Manifest Destiny.

You can't really grow up in the west and not be racist to some extent. Why try and get indignant? It's something in the water. If it helps, you're probably not as racist as the guys that came before you. And Civilization isn't racist on the level that that Resident Evil 5 game is. That's a shining example of a company trying to play off of increasing racial tensions to make a few bucks. On 4 you blow up Mexicans trying to cross your borders and now your blowing up black zombies grubbing for your welfare dollars and white women.

Still, though, to create a simulation of the de-facto genocide and eradication of 92% of the native population of North America should've made your skin crawl, like it did mine. But...we're all racist. Doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on. Just come to terms with it and move on.

(P.S. I got a high opinion of the people on this forum, but I'm just trying to be real about the world we live in. Don't take it personal.)

 

[Talquin]

People use the same logic that GTA makes people kill and steal , playing a historical war game as Nazi germany makes you a Nazi.

 

[Malkaviel]

Where are the Hattian (no, not Hatian) advocates, or for that matter, advocates for the Hittites who proceeded them? Why don't they have land grants and casinos in Turkey?

Why don't we see Visigoth tribal councils from France to Italy?

Why aren't there advocates suing people to stop farming Pictish burial grounds?

Why doesn't Iran give Elamite descendants tax exemptions?


Face it. Those culture failed or were assimilated. You call it manifest destiny, I call it imminent domain. Whining losers are the most annoying kinds.

Too many bleeding heart liberals trying to hold up progress like a final "F U" from some dweeb in a mp colonization game who keeps spawning with his ship and 2 colonists when you killed him an hour ago.

People don't know how to give up when they're beaten and move on.

 

[Awesomeguy]

Well the game itself is not rascist, it's historical. History was rascist and immoral

 

[Crighton]

Is it racist that I give the natives guns, horses, blankets, rum, smokes and shiny beads to win their friendship and give them arms so they can help fight the king of my motherland while defending their settlements which have been totally overwhelmed by my cultural bordes and refuse to let them gift me those settlements thereby forcing them to maintain defend their settlements from the king
without any support from my military?

Of course not.

 

[CivNoobie]

I'll be honest, I chuckled when I saw Kazakh was one of the barbarians lol

 

[dalgo]

Well the game itself is not rascist, it's historical. History was rascist and immoral

Well put

 

[Sonereal]

Didn't know your necromancing skills have improved to such great levels! Tell us how you could bring back a body that has been rotting in the ground for two years?

 

[dalgo]

Didn't know your necromancing skills have improved to such great levels! Tell us how you could bring back a body that has been rotting in the ground for two years?

I remember seeing an 8-year bump in the original Colonization forum